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I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it?

  • is it just for spite?

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle?

  • Any other thoughts on this?












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Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.












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It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2












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Validation












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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.



This, I guess. I'd also like to point out that there are far more not even street level manga characters than there are comic characters of the same variety, and both mediums have plenty of their own overpowered monsters.












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@faradaysloth said:

It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2














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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.














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Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.












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@sladerulez said:


Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.


Read the OP












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#11
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Some comic characters are equally overpowered, I'd say most insanely OP characters are from comics, like Living Tribunal, IG users, DC's Archangels, etc.


If we're talking about the street level, it is pretty rare to find manga street levelers that are comparable to the likes of Captain America let say... Like they're usually either on the trash tier or somewhere on/slightly below Spider-Man tier.












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@mega6382: whoops, my bad.


Welp, this could be said for both sides. All forms of media have at least one OP character. With the level of power varying for each franchise.


I mean, Luffy is a Mid Tier while Naruto is on that borderline between Mid tier and high tier, not really fitting either tier too well. So it's always a flame war for him.


Dragonball has a lot of problems with consistency, and it causes plenty of heated debates. It ended up being too bad and they were banned.


And with newer Mangas and Animes coming out every year, lists just keep growing.


So we end up with one of two options:


1. The characters from this franchise are simply too high for the Comic high tiers to touch


(DBS, Toriko, Saint Seya, Gurren Lagann)


2. Characters from mid/high tier animes are put against characters above their paygrade and is Implied to be stronger than they really are


(OPM, Naruto, NNT, Bleach)


3. High tier Comic characters are significantly nerfed in recent comics and Anime Fans take advantage so their anime characters can beat them in a battle.


(New 52, Rebirth)












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I like em all :p












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@xzone said:

I like em all :p



:P read the OP












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"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.












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@sungsam said:


"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.




this












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@mega6382 said:


I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it? As long as there are fans of different series, there's bound to be comparison/debate between the two.

  • is it just for spite? Not always. In fact, there's a lot of comic characters that would stomp on manga characters and vice versa. There are far more reasonable matches than mismatches/spite.

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle? Personally, I don't like the concept of nerfing a character. If you have to nerf a character to make a fight "fair" - well, you're just admitting that character would win, right? The only time I think nerfs are acceptable is something like equal stats being used to judge their skills rather than who has the most OP abilities/ridiculous power.

  • Any other thoughts on this?














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I should add that the Tribalism between Comics and Manga isn't all there is. If Comics didn't exist, the Weebs will find something else to bitch at and also vice versa for Comic nerds.


Are we forgetting that Marvel nerds have historically lowballed DC's God Tiers far worse than any Weeb did? You'll never hear from a Demonbane debater that Lucifer is only Universe level for example.


Are we forgetting the rivalries between DBZ and Saint Seiya? Rivalries within the HST?


Manga vs Comics dichotomy doesn't always exist, I mean, sometimes it does. But sometimes Weebs and Comic Nerds will eat among themselves first than the media from across the pacific.


It's not always that clear cut. And neither side BARELY makes for a unified force.


Weebs and Comic Nerds (some of either) who are into the Comic vs Manga rivalry sometimes try to make the delusion that they're like this unified force, but only certain sectors are. It's just an image, but it's really disorganized as hell.










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#1
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mega6382
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I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it?

  • is it just for spite?

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle?

  • Any other thoughts on this?












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#2
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Life_Without_Progress
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Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.












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#3
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FaradaySloth
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It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2












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#4
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Validation












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#5
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ValorKnight
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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.



This, I guess. I'd also like to point out that there are far more not even street level manga characters than there are comic characters of the same variety, and both mediums have plenty of their own overpowered monsters.












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@faradaysloth said:

It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2














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#7
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Meh



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#8
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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.














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#9
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Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.












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#10
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mega6382
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@sladerulez said:


Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.


Read the OP












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#11
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Some comic characters are equally overpowered, I'd say most insanely OP characters are from comics, like Living Tribunal, IG users, DC's Archangels, etc.


If we're talking about the street level, it is pretty rare to find manga street levelers that are comparable to the likes of Captain America let say... Like they're usually either on the trash tier or somewhere on/slightly below Spider-Man tier.












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#12
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@mega6382: whoops, my bad.


Welp, this could be said for both sides. All forms of media have at least one OP character. With the level of power varying for each franchise.


I mean, Luffy is a Mid Tier while Naruto is on that borderline between Mid tier and high tier, not really fitting either tier too well. So it's always a flame war for him.


Dragonball has a lot of problems with consistency, and it causes plenty of heated debates. It ended up being too bad and they were banned.


And with newer Mangas and Animes coming out every year, lists just keep growing.


So we end up with one of two options:


1. The characters from this franchise are simply too high for the Comic high tiers to touch


(DBS, Toriko, Saint Seya, Gurren Lagann)


2. Characters from mid/high tier animes are put against characters above their paygrade and is Implied to be stronger than they really are


(OPM, Naruto, NNT, Bleach)


3. High tier Comic characters are significantly nerfed in recent comics and Anime Fans take advantage so their anime characters can beat them in a battle.


(New 52, Rebirth)












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#13
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I like em all :p












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#14
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@xzone said:

I like em all :p



:P read the OP












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#15
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Sungsam
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"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.












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#16
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- 4 months, 3 days ago
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@sungsam said:


"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.




this












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#17
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@mega6382 said:


I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it? As long as there are fans of different series, there's bound to be comparison/debate between the two.

  • is it just for spite? Not always. In fact, there's a lot of comic characters that would stomp on manga characters and vice versa. There are far more reasonable matches than mismatches/spite.

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle? Personally, I don't like the concept of nerfing a character. If you have to nerf a character to make a fight "fair" - well, you're just admitting that character would win, right? The only time I think nerfs are acceptable is something like equal stats being used to judge their skills rather than who has the most OP abilities/ridiculous power.

  • Any other thoughts on this?














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#18
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I should add that the Tribalism between Comics and Manga isn't all there is. If Comics didn't exist, the Weebs will find something else to bitch at and also vice versa for Comic nerds.


Are we forgetting that Marvel nerds have historically lowballed DC's God Tiers far worse than any Weeb did? You'll never hear from a Demonbane debater that Lucifer is only Universe level for example.


Are we forgetting the rivalries between DBZ and Saint Seiya? Rivalries within the HST?


Manga vs Comics dichotomy doesn't always exist, I mean, sometimes it does. But sometimes Weebs and Comic Nerds will eat among themselves first than the media from across the pacific.


It's not always that clear cut. And neither side BARELY makes for a unified force.


Weebs and Comic Nerds (some of either) who are into the Comic vs Manga rivalry sometimes try to make the delusion that they're like this unified force, but only certain sectors are. It's just an image, but it's really disorganized as hell.










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Manga vs comicbooks?















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#1
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I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it?

  • is it just for spite?

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle?

  • Any other thoughts on this?












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#2
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Life_Without_Progress
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Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.












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#3
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FaradaySloth
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It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2












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#4
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Validation












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#5
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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.



This, I guess. I'd also like to point out that there are far more not even street level manga characters than there are comic characters of the same variety, and both mediums have plenty of their own overpowered monsters.












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#6
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@faradaysloth said:

It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2














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#7
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Meh



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#8
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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.














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#9
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sladerulez
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Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.












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#10
Posted by

mega6382
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- 4 months, 5 days ago
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@sladerulez said:


Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.


Read the OP












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#11
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Lan_Fan
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Some comic characters are equally overpowered, I'd say most insanely OP characters are from comics, like Living Tribunal, IG users, DC's Archangels, etc.


If we're talking about the street level, it is pretty rare to find manga street levelers that are comparable to the likes of Captain America let say... Like they're usually either on the trash tier or somewhere on/slightly below Spider-Man tier.












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#12
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sladerulez
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@mega6382: whoops, my bad.


Welp, this could be said for both sides. All forms of media have at least one OP character. With the level of power varying for each franchise.


I mean, Luffy is a Mid Tier while Naruto is on that borderline between Mid tier and high tier, not really fitting either tier too well. So it's always a flame war for him.


Dragonball has a lot of problems with consistency, and it causes plenty of heated debates. It ended up being too bad and they were banned.


And with newer Mangas and Animes coming out every year, lists just keep growing.


So we end up with one of two options:


1. The characters from this franchise are simply too high for the Comic high tiers to touch


(DBS, Toriko, Saint Seya, Gurren Lagann)


2. Characters from mid/high tier animes are put against characters above their paygrade and is Implied to be stronger than they really are


(OPM, Naruto, NNT, Bleach)


3. High tier Comic characters are significantly nerfed in recent comics and Anime Fans take advantage so their anime characters can beat them in a battle.


(New 52, Rebirth)












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#13
Posted by

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I like em all :p












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#14
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mega6382
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- 4 months, 5 days ago
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@xzone said:

I like em all :p



:P read the OP












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#15
Edited by
Sungsam
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"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.












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#16
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- 4 months, 3 days ago
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@sungsam said:


"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.




this












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#17
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@mega6382 said:


I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it? As long as there are fans of different series, there's bound to be comparison/debate between the two.

  • is it just for spite? Not always. In fact, there's a lot of comic characters that would stomp on manga characters and vice versa. There are far more reasonable matches than mismatches/spite.

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle? Personally, I don't like the concept of nerfing a character. If you have to nerf a character to make a fight "fair" - well, you're just admitting that character would win, right? The only time I think nerfs are acceptable is something like equal stats being used to judge their skills rather than who has the most OP abilities/ridiculous power.

  • Any other thoughts on this?














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#18
Edited by
Sungsam
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- 4 months, 2 days ago
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I should add that the Tribalism between Comics and Manga isn't all there is. If Comics didn't exist, the Weebs will find something else to bitch at and also vice versa for Comic nerds.


Are we forgetting that Marvel nerds have historically lowballed DC's God Tiers far worse than any Weeb did? You'll never hear from a Demonbane debater that Lucifer is only Universe level for example.


Are we forgetting the rivalries between DBZ and Saint Seiya? Rivalries within the HST?


Manga vs Comics dichotomy doesn't always exist, I mean, sometimes it does. But sometimes Weebs and Comic Nerds will eat among themselves first than the media from across the pacific.


It's not always that clear cut. And neither side BARELY makes for a unified force.


Weebs and Comic Nerds (some of either) who are into the Comic vs Manga rivalry sometimes try to make the delusion that they're like this unified force, but only certain sectors are. It's just an image, but it's really disorganized as hell.










Jump to Top

Jump to Last Read



































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#1
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I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it?

  • is it just for spite?

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle?

  • Any other thoughts on this?












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Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.












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It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2












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Validation












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#5
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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.



This, I guess. I'd also like to point out that there are far more not even street level manga characters than there are comic characters of the same variety, and both mediums have plenty of their own overpowered monsters.












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@faradaysloth said:

It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2














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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.














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Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.












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@sladerulez said:


Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.


Read the OP












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Some comic characters are equally overpowered, I'd say most insanely OP characters are from comics, like Living Tribunal, IG users, DC's Archangels, etc.


If we're talking about the street level, it is pretty rare to find manga street levelers that are comparable to the likes of Captain America let say... Like they're usually either on the trash tier or somewhere on/slightly below Spider-Man tier.












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@mega6382: whoops, my bad.


Welp, this could be said for both sides. All forms of media have at least one OP character. With the level of power varying for each franchise.


I mean, Luffy is a Mid Tier while Naruto is on that borderline between Mid tier and high tier, not really fitting either tier too well. So it's always a flame war for him.


Dragonball has a lot of problems with consistency, and it causes plenty of heated debates. It ended up being too bad and they were banned.


And with newer Mangas and Animes coming out every year, lists just keep growing.


So we end up with one of two options:


1. The characters from this franchise are simply too high for the Comic high tiers to touch


(DBS, Toriko, Saint Seya, Gurren Lagann)


2. Characters from mid/high tier animes are put against characters above their paygrade and is Implied to be stronger than they really are


(OPM, Naruto, NNT, Bleach)


3. High tier Comic characters are significantly nerfed in recent comics and Anime Fans take advantage so their anime characters can beat them in a battle.


(New 52, Rebirth)












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I like em all :p












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@xzone said:

I like em all :p



:P read the OP












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"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.












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@sungsam said:


"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.




this












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@mega6382 said:


I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it? As long as there are fans of different series, there's bound to be comparison/debate between the two.

  • is it just for spite? Not always. In fact, there's a lot of comic characters that would stomp on manga characters and vice versa. There are far more reasonable matches than mismatches/spite.

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle? Personally, I don't like the concept of nerfing a character. If you have to nerf a character to make a fight "fair" - well, you're just admitting that character would win, right? The only time I think nerfs are acceptable is something like equal stats being used to judge their skills rather than who has the most OP abilities/ridiculous power.

  • Any other thoughts on this?














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I should add that the Tribalism between Comics and Manga isn't all there is. If Comics didn't exist, the Weebs will find something else to bitch at and also vice versa for Comic nerds.


Are we forgetting that Marvel nerds have historically lowballed DC's God Tiers far worse than any Weeb did? You'll never hear from a Demonbane debater that Lucifer is only Universe level for example.


Are we forgetting the rivalries between DBZ and Saint Seiya? Rivalries within the HST?


Manga vs Comics dichotomy doesn't always exist, I mean, sometimes it does. But sometimes Weebs and Comic Nerds will eat among themselves first than the media from across the pacific.


It's not always that clear cut. And neither side BARELY makes for a unified force.


Weebs and Comic Nerds (some of either) who are into the Comic vs Manga rivalry sometimes try to make the delusion that they're like this unified force, but only certain sectors are. It's just an image, but it's really disorganized as hell.










Jump to Top

Jump to Last Read



























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I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it?

  • is it just for spite?

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle?

  • Any other thoughts on this?












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Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.












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#3
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It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2












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#4
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Validation












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#5
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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.



This, I guess. I'd also like to point out that there are far more not even street level manga characters than there are comic characters of the same variety, and both mediums have plenty of their own overpowered monsters.












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@faradaysloth said:

It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2














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Meh



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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.














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Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.












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@sladerulez said:


Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.


Read the OP












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#11
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Some comic characters are equally overpowered, I'd say most insanely OP characters are from comics, like Living Tribunal, IG users, DC's Archangels, etc.


If we're talking about the street level, it is pretty rare to find manga street levelers that are comparable to the likes of Captain America let say... Like they're usually either on the trash tier or somewhere on/slightly below Spider-Man tier.












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@mega6382: whoops, my bad.


Welp, this could be said for both sides. All forms of media have at least one OP character. With the level of power varying for each franchise.


I mean, Luffy is a Mid Tier while Naruto is on that borderline between Mid tier and high tier, not really fitting either tier too well. So it's always a flame war for him.


Dragonball has a lot of problems with consistency, and it causes plenty of heated debates. It ended up being too bad and they were banned.


And with newer Mangas and Animes coming out every year, lists just keep growing.


So we end up with one of two options:


1. The characters from this franchise are simply too high for the Comic high tiers to touch


(DBS, Toriko, Saint Seya, Gurren Lagann)


2. Characters from mid/high tier animes are put against characters above their paygrade and is Implied to be stronger than they really are


(OPM, Naruto, NNT, Bleach)


3. High tier Comic characters are significantly nerfed in recent comics and Anime Fans take advantage so their anime characters can beat them in a battle.


(New 52, Rebirth)












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I like em all :p












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@xzone said:

I like em all :p



:P read the OP












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"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.












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@sungsam said:


"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.




this












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@mega6382 said:


I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it? As long as there are fans of different series, there's bound to be comparison/debate between the two.

  • is it just for spite? Not always. In fact, there's a lot of comic characters that would stomp on manga characters and vice versa. There are far more reasonable matches than mismatches/spite.

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle? Personally, I don't like the concept of nerfing a character. If you have to nerf a character to make a fight "fair" - well, you're just admitting that character would win, right? The only time I think nerfs are acceptable is something like equal stats being used to judge their skills rather than who has the most OP abilities/ridiculous power.

  • Any other thoughts on this?














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#18
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I should add that the Tribalism between Comics and Manga isn't all there is. If Comics didn't exist, the Weebs will find something else to bitch at and also vice versa for Comic nerds.


Are we forgetting that Marvel nerds have historically lowballed DC's God Tiers far worse than any Weeb did? You'll never hear from a Demonbane debater that Lucifer is only Universe level for example.


Are we forgetting the rivalries between DBZ and Saint Seiya? Rivalries within the HST?


Manga vs Comics dichotomy doesn't always exist, I mean, sometimes it does. But sometimes Weebs and Comic Nerds will eat among themselves first than the media from across the pacific.


It's not always that clear cut. And neither side BARELY makes for a unified force.


Weebs and Comic Nerds (some of either) who are into the Comic vs Manga rivalry sometimes try to make the delusion that they're like this unified force, but only certain sectors are. It's just an image, but it's really disorganized as hell.










Jump to Top

Jump to Last Read

























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I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it?

  • is it just for spite?

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle?

  • Any other thoughts on this?












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#2
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Life_Without_Progress
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Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.












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#3
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It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2












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#4
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Validation












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#5
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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.



This, I guess. I'd also like to point out that there are far more not even street level manga characters than there are comic characters of the same variety, and both mediums have plenty of their own overpowered monsters.












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@faradaysloth said:

It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2














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Meh



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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.














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Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.












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#10
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@sladerulez said:


Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.


Read the OP












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#11
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Some comic characters are equally overpowered, I'd say most insanely OP characters are from comics, like Living Tribunal, IG users, DC's Archangels, etc.


If we're talking about the street level, it is pretty rare to find manga street levelers that are comparable to the likes of Captain America let say... Like they're usually either on the trash tier or somewhere on/slightly below Spider-Man tier.












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#12
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sladerulez
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@mega6382: whoops, my bad.


Welp, this could be said for both sides. All forms of media have at least one OP character. With the level of power varying for each franchise.


I mean, Luffy is a Mid Tier while Naruto is on that borderline between Mid tier and high tier, not really fitting either tier too well. So it's always a flame war for him.


Dragonball has a lot of problems with consistency, and it causes plenty of heated debates. It ended up being too bad and they were banned.


And with newer Mangas and Animes coming out every year, lists just keep growing.


So we end up with one of two options:


1. The characters from this franchise are simply too high for the Comic high tiers to touch


(DBS, Toriko, Saint Seya, Gurren Lagann)


2. Characters from mid/high tier animes are put against characters above their paygrade and is Implied to be stronger than they really are


(OPM, Naruto, NNT, Bleach)


3. High tier Comic characters are significantly nerfed in recent comics and Anime Fans take advantage so their anime characters can beat them in a battle.


(New 52, Rebirth)












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I like em all :p












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#14
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@xzone said:

I like em all :p



:P read the OP












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#15
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"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.












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#16
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@sungsam said:


"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.




this












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#17
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@mega6382 said:


I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it? As long as there are fans of different series, there's bound to be comparison/debate between the two.

  • is it just for spite? Not always. In fact, there's a lot of comic characters that would stomp on manga characters and vice versa. There are far more reasonable matches than mismatches/spite.

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle? Personally, I don't like the concept of nerfing a character. If you have to nerf a character to make a fight "fair" - well, you're just admitting that character would win, right? The only time I think nerfs are acceptable is something like equal stats being used to judge their skills rather than who has the most OP abilities/ridiculous power.

  • Any other thoughts on this?














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#18
Edited by
Sungsam
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I should add that the Tribalism between Comics and Manga isn't all there is. If Comics didn't exist, the Weebs will find something else to bitch at and also vice versa for Comic nerds.


Are we forgetting that Marvel nerds have historically lowballed DC's God Tiers far worse than any Weeb did? You'll never hear from a Demonbane debater that Lucifer is only Universe level for example.


Are we forgetting the rivalries between DBZ and Saint Seiya? Rivalries within the HST?


Manga vs Comics dichotomy doesn't always exist, I mean, sometimes it does. But sometimes Weebs and Comic Nerds will eat among themselves first than the media from across the pacific.


It's not always that clear cut. And neither side BARELY makes for a unified force.


Weebs and Comic Nerds (some of either) who are into the Comic vs Manga rivalry sometimes try to make the delusion that they're like this unified force, but only certain sectors are. It's just an image, but it's really disorganized as hell.










Jump to Top

Jump to Last Read






















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#1
Posted by

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I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it?

  • is it just for spite?

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle?

  • Any other thoughts on this?












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#2
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Life_Without_Progress
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Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.












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#3
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It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2












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#4
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Validation












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#5
Edited by
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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.



This, I guess. I'd also like to point out that there are far more not even street level manga characters than there are comic characters of the same variety, and both mediums have plenty of their own overpowered monsters.












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#6
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@faradaysloth said:

It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2














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#7
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Meh



Online









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#8
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Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.












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@sladerulez said:


Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.


Read the OP












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Some comic characters are equally overpowered, I'd say most insanely OP characters are from comics, like Living Tribunal, IG users, DC's Archangels, etc.


If we're talking about the street level, it is pretty rare to find manga street levelers that are comparable to the likes of Captain America let say... Like they're usually either on the trash tier or somewhere on/slightly below Spider-Man tier.












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@mega6382: whoops, my bad.


Welp, this could be said for both sides. All forms of media have at least one OP character. With the level of power varying for each franchise.


I mean, Luffy is a Mid Tier while Naruto is on that borderline between Mid tier and high tier, not really fitting either tier too well. So it's always a flame war for him.


Dragonball has a lot of problems with consistency, and it causes plenty of heated debates. It ended up being too bad and they were banned.


And with newer Mangas and Animes coming out every year, lists just keep growing.


So we end up with one of two options:


1. The characters from this franchise are simply too high for the Comic high tiers to touch


(DBS, Toriko, Saint Seya, Gurren Lagann)


2. Characters from mid/high tier animes are put against characters above their paygrade and is Implied to be stronger than they really are


(OPM, Naruto, NNT, Bleach)


3. High tier Comic characters are significantly nerfed in recent comics and Anime Fans take advantage so their anime characters can beat them in a battle.


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I like em all :p



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"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.












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@sungsam said:


"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.




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I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it? As long as there are fans of different series, there's bound to be comparison/debate between the two.

  • is it just for spite? Not always. In fact, there's a lot of comic characters that would stomp on manga characters and vice versa. There are far more reasonable matches than mismatches/spite.

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle? Personally, I don't like the concept of nerfing a character. If you have to nerf a character to make a fight "fair" - well, you're just admitting that character would win, right? The only time I think nerfs are acceptable is something like equal stats being used to judge their skills rather than who has the most OP abilities/ridiculous power.

  • Any other thoughts on this?














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I should add that the Tribalism between Comics and Manga isn't all there is. If Comics didn't exist, the Weebs will find something else to bitch at and also vice versa for Comic nerds.


Are we forgetting that Marvel nerds have historically lowballed DC's God Tiers far worse than any Weeb did? You'll never hear from a Demonbane debater that Lucifer is only Universe level for example.


Are we forgetting the rivalries between DBZ and Saint Seiya? Rivalries within the HST?


Manga vs Comics dichotomy doesn't always exist, I mean, sometimes it does. But sometimes Weebs and Comic Nerds will eat among themselves first than the media from across the pacific.


It's not always that clear cut. And neither side BARELY makes for a unified force.


Weebs and Comic Nerds (some of either) who are into the Comic vs Manga rivalry sometimes try to make the delusion that they're like this unified force, but only certain sectors are. It's just an image, but it's really disorganized as hell.










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I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it?

  • is it just for spite?

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle?

  • Any other thoughts on this?








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I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it?

  • is it just for spite?

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle?

  • Any other thoughts on this?








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I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it?

  • is it just for spite?

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle?

  • Any other thoughts on this?







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I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it?

  • is it just for spite?

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle?

  • Any other thoughts on this?









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Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.








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Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.








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Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.









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It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2








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It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2








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It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2







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It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2









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Validation








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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.



This, I guess. I'd also like to point out that there are far more not even street level manga characters than there are comic characters of the same variety, and both mediums have plenty of their own overpowered monsters.








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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.



This, I guess. I'd also like to point out that there are far more not even street level manga characters than there are comic characters of the same variety, and both mediums have plenty of their own overpowered monsters.








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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.



This, I guess. I'd also like to point out that there are far more not even street level manga characters than there are comic characters of the same variety, and both mediums have plenty of their own overpowered monsters.







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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.



This, I guess. I'd also like to point out that there are far more not even street level manga characters than there are comic characters of the same variety, and both mediums have plenty of their own overpowered monsters.




@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.




Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.









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@faradaysloth said:

It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2










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@faradaysloth said:

It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2










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@faradaysloth said:

It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2









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@faradaysloth said:

It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2







@faradaysloth said:

It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2





@faradaysloth said:


It's the Japanese's revenge for WW2









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Meh



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Meh



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@life_without_progress said:

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@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.







@life_without_progress said:

Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.





@life_without_progress said:


Uneducated perceptions on both sides tend to be the fault to be honest.









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Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.








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Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.








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Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.







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Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.









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@sladerulez said:


Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.


Read the OP








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@sladerulez said:


Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.


Read the OP








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@sladerulez said:


Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.


Read the OP







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@sladerulez said:


Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.


Read the OP



Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.



Both are great and appealing in their own ways. However, Manga is simply easier to follow and get into than most Major Comics. Making it the popular choice nowadays.









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Some comic characters are equally overpowered, I'd say most insanely OP characters are from comics, like Living Tribunal, IG users, DC's Archangels, etc.


If we're talking about the street level, it is pretty rare to find manga street levelers that are comparable to the likes of Captain America let say... Like they're usually either on the trash tier or somewhere on/slightly below Spider-Man tier.








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Some comic characters are equally overpowered, I'd say most insanely OP characters are from comics, like Living Tribunal, IG users, DC's Archangels, etc.


If we're talking about the street level, it is pretty rare to find manga street levelers that are comparable to the likes of Captain America let say... Like they're usually either on the trash tier or somewhere on/slightly below Spider-Man tier.








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Some comic characters are equally overpowered, I'd say most insanely OP characters are from comics, like Living Tribunal, IG users, DC's Archangels, etc.


If we're talking about the street level, it is pretty rare to find manga street levelers that are comparable to the likes of Captain America let say... Like they're usually either on the trash tier or somewhere on/slightly below Spider-Man tier.







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Some comic characters are equally overpowered, I'd say most insanely OP characters are from comics, like Living Tribunal, IG users, DC's Archangels, etc.


If we're talking about the street level, it is pretty rare to find manga street levelers that are comparable to the likes of Captain America let say... Like they're usually either on the trash tier or somewhere on/slightly below Spider-Man tier.









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@mega6382: whoops, my bad.


Welp, this could be said for both sides. All forms of media have at least one OP character. With the level of power varying for each franchise.


I mean, Luffy is a Mid Tier while Naruto is on that borderline between Mid tier and high tier, not really fitting either tier too well. So it's always a flame war for him.


Dragonball has a lot of problems with consistency, and it causes plenty of heated debates. It ended up being too bad and they were banned.


And with newer Mangas and Animes coming out every year, lists just keep growing.


So we end up with one of two options:


1. The characters from this franchise are simply too high for the Comic high tiers to touch


(DBS, Toriko, Saint Seya, Gurren Lagann)


2. Characters from mid/high tier animes are put against characters above their paygrade and is Implied to be stronger than they really are


(OPM, Naruto, NNT, Bleach)


3. High tier Comic characters are significantly nerfed in recent comics and Anime Fans take advantage so their anime characters can beat them in a battle.


(New 52, Rebirth)








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@mega6382: whoops, my bad.


Welp, this could be said for both sides. All forms of media have at least one OP character. With the level of power varying for each franchise.


I mean, Luffy is a Mid Tier while Naruto is on that borderline between Mid tier and high tier, not really fitting either tier too well. So it's always a flame war for him.


Dragonball has a lot of problems with consistency, and it causes plenty of heated debates. It ended up being too bad and they were banned.


And with newer Mangas and Animes coming out every year, lists just keep growing.


So we end up with one of two options:


1. The characters from this franchise are simply too high for the Comic high tiers to touch


(DBS, Toriko, Saint Seya, Gurren Lagann)


2. Characters from mid/high tier animes are put against characters above their paygrade and is Implied to be stronger than they really are


(OPM, Naruto, NNT, Bleach)


3. High tier Comic characters are significantly nerfed in recent comics and Anime Fans take advantage so their anime characters can beat them in a battle.


(New 52, Rebirth)








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@mega6382: whoops, my bad.


Welp, this could be said for both sides. All forms of media have at least one OP character. With the level of power varying for each franchise.


I mean, Luffy is a Mid Tier while Naruto is on that borderline between Mid tier and high tier, not really fitting either tier too well. So it's always a flame war for him.


Dragonball has a lot of problems with consistency, and it causes plenty of heated debates. It ended up being too bad and they were banned.


And with newer Mangas and Animes coming out every year, lists just keep growing.


So we end up with one of two options:


1. The characters from this franchise are simply too high for the Comic high tiers to touch


(DBS, Toriko, Saint Seya, Gurren Lagann)


2. Characters from mid/high tier animes are put against characters above their paygrade and is Implied to be stronger than they really are


(OPM, Naruto, NNT, Bleach)


3. High tier Comic characters are significantly nerfed in recent comics and Anime Fans take advantage so their anime characters can beat them in a battle.


(New 52, Rebirth)







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@mega6382: whoops, my bad.


Welp, this could be said for both sides. All forms of media have at least one OP character. With the level of power varying for each franchise.


I mean, Luffy is a Mid Tier while Naruto is on that borderline between Mid tier and high tier, not really fitting either tier too well. So it's always a flame war for him.


Dragonball has a lot of problems with consistency, and it causes plenty of heated debates. It ended up being too bad and they were banned.


And with newer Mangas and Animes coming out every year, lists just keep growing.


So we end up with one of two options:


1. The characters from this franchise are simply too high for the Comic high tiers to touch


(DBS, Toriko, Saint Seya, Gurren Lagann)


2. Characters from mid/high tier animes are put against characters above their paygrade and is Implied to be stronger than they really are


(OPM, Naruto, NNT, Bleach)


3. High tier Comic characters are significantly nerfed in recent comics and Anime Fans take advantage so their anime characters can beat them in a battle.


(New 52, Rebirth)









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I like em all :p








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I like em all :p








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I like em all :p







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I like em all :p









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@xzone said:

I like em all :p



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@xzone said:

I like em all :p



:P read the OP








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@xzone said:

I like em all :p



:P read the OP







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@xzone said:

I like em all :p



:P read the OP





@xzone said:

I like em all :p





@xzone said:


I like em all :p









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"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.








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"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.








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"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.







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"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.









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@sungsam said:


"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.




this








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@sungsam said:


"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.




this








#16
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@sungsam said:


"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.




this







#16
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@sungsam said:


"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.




this





@sungsam said:


"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.






@sungsam said:



"Overpowered" is a relative concept with an inconsistent benchmark and standard from debater to debater.


I would say that Comic Books are simultaneously ganged up against in Multiversal debates however, by and by, an Unholy Alliance between Weebs, Scifi nerds and Novel Readers whose characters heavily shine against Comics by Dimensional Tiering. That's why VSBattle's tiering system is the way it is.


That's why you see WH40K wankers defending Tenchi Muyo and Demonbane spiting Comics, and you'll find Visual Novel Dimensional Tiering Cuckold Weebs defending Star Trek spiting Comics on some forums and threads. It did die down though.


The Manga vs Comic stuff was heavily defined with a structural rivalry with the advent of the Superman vs Goku debates.










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@mega6382 said:


I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it? As long as there are fans of different series, there's bound to be comparison/debate between the two.

  • is it just for spite? Not always. In fact, there's a lot of comic characters that would stomp on manga characters and vice versa. There are far more reasonable matches than mismatches/spite.

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle? Personally, I don't like the concept of nerfing a character. If you have to nerf a character to make a fight "fair" - well, you're just admitting that character would win, right? The only time I think nerfs are acceptable is something like equal stats being used to judge their skills rather than who has the most OP abilities/ridiculous power.

  • Any other thoughts on this?










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#17
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@mega6382 said:


I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it? As long as there are fans of different series, there's bound to be comparison/debate between the two.

  • is it just for spite? Not always. In fact, there's a lot of comic characters that would stomp on manga characters and vice versa. There are far more reasonable matches than mismatches/spite.

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle? Personally, I don't like the concept of nerfing a character. If you have to nerf a character to make a fight "fair" - well, you're just admitting that character would win, right? The only time I think nerfs are acceptable is something like equal stats being used to judge their skills rather than who has the most OP abilities/ridiculous power.

  • Any other thoughts on this?










#17
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@mega6382 said:


I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it? As long as there are fans of different series, there's bound to be comparison/debate between the two.

  • is it just for spite? Not always. In fact, there's a lot of comic characters that would stomp on manga characters and vice versa. There are far more reasonable matches than mismatches/spite.

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle? Personally, I don't like the concept of nerfing a character. If you have to nerf a character to make a fight "fair" - well, you're just admitting that character would win, right? The only time I think nerfs are acceptable is something like equal stats being used to judge their skills rather than who has the most OP abilities/ridiculous power.

  • Any other thoughts on this?









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@mega6382 said:


I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it? As long as there are fans of different series, there's bound to be comparison/debate between the two.

  • is it just for spite? Not always. In fact, there's a lot of comic characters that would stomp on manga characters and vice versa. There are far more reasonable matches than mismatches/spite.

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle? Personally, I don't like the concept of nerfing a character. If you have to nerf a character to make a fight "fair" - well, you're just admitting that character would win, right? The only time I think nerfs are acceptable is something like equal stats being used to judge their skills rather than who has the most OP abilities/ridiculous power.

  • Any other thoughts on this?







@mega6382 said:


I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it? As long as there are fans of different series, there's bound to be comparison/debate between the two.

  • is it just for spite? Not always. In fact, there's a lot of comic characters that would stomp on manga characters and vice versa. There are far more reasonable matches than mismatches/spite.

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle? Personally, I don't like the concept of nerfing a character. If you have to nerf a character to make a fight "fair" - well, you're just admitting that character would win, right? The only time I think nerfs are acceptable is something like equal stats being used to judge their skills rather than who has the most OP abilities/ridiculous power.

  • Any other thoughts on this?





@mega6382 said:



I have often seen threads in battle forums, with battle between some comicbook character and some manga character. I am no expert on either of these things, but from what I've seen manga characters are way too OP, and only some very high-tier characters usually are comparable to them. The battles against low tier comicbook characters are usually an overkill.


  • So, why do people keep doing it? As long as there are fans of different series, there's bound to be comparison/debate between the two.

  • is it just for spite? Not always. In fact, there's a lot of comic characters that would stomp on manga characters and vice versa. There are far more reasonable matches than mismatches/spite.

  • or is it just fanboyism?

  • Should those characters be nurfed a little for the battle? Personally, I don't like the concept of nerfing a character. If you have to nerf a character to make a fight "fair" - well, you're just admitting that character would win, right? The only time I think nerfs are acceptable is something like equal stats being used to judge their skills rather than who has the most OP abilities/ridiculous power.

  • Any other thoughts on this?









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I should add that the Tribalism between Comics and Manga isn't all there is. If Comics didn't exist, the Weebs will find something else to bitch at and also vice versa for Comic nerds.


Are we forgetting that Marvel nerds have historically lowballed DC's God Tiers far worse than any Weeb did? You'll never hear from a Demonbane debater that Lucifer is only Universe level for example.


Are we forgetting the rivalries between DBZ and Saint Seiya? Rivalries within the HST?


Manga vs Comics dichotomy doesn't always exist, I mean, sometimes it does. But sometimes Weebs and Comic Nerds will eat among themselves first than the media from across the pacific.


It's not always that clear cut. And neither side BARELY makes for a unified force.


Weebs and Comic Nerds (some of either) who are into the Comic vs Manga rivalry sometimes try to make the delusion that they're like this unified force, but only certain sectors are. It's just an image, but it's really disorganized as hell.








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#18
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I should add that the Tribalism between Comics and Manga isn't all there is. If Comics didn't exist, the Weebs will find something else to bitch at and also vice versa for Comic nerds.


Are we forgetting that Marvel nerds have historically lowballed DC's God Tiers far worse than any Weeb did? You'll never hear from a Demonbane debater that Lucifer is only Universe level for example.


Are we forgetting the rivalries between DBZ and Saint Seiya? Rivalries within the HST?


Manga vs Comics dichotomy doesn't always exist, I mean, sometimes it does. But sometimes Weebs and Comic Nerds will eat among themselves first than the media from across the pacific.


It's not always that clear cut. And neither side BARELY makes for a unified force.


Weebs and Comic Nerds (some of either) who are into the Comic vs Manga rivalry sometimes try to make the delusion that they're like this unified force, but only certain sectors are. It's just an image, but it's really disorganized as hell.








#18
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Sungsam
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I should add that the Tribalism between Comics and Manga isn't all there is. If Comics didn't exist, the Weebs will find something else to bitch at and also vice versa for Comic nerds.


Are we forgetting that Marvel nerds have historically lowballed DC's God Tiers far worse than any Weeb did? You'll never hear from a Demonbane debater that Lucifer is only Universe level for example.


Are we forgetting the rivalries between DBZ and Saint Seiya? Rivalries within the HST?


Manga vs Comics dichotomy doesn't always exist, I mean, sometimes it does. But sometimes Weebs and Comic Nerds will eat among themselves first than the media from across the pacific.


It's not always that clear cut. And neither side BARELY makes for a unified force.


Weebs and Comic Nerds (some of either) who are into the Comic vs Manga rivalry sometimes try to make the delusion that they're like this unified force, but only certain sectors are. It's just an image, but it's really disorganized as hell.







#18
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Sungsam
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I should add that the Tribalism between Comics and Manga isn't all there is. If Comics didn't exist, the Weebs will find something else to bitch at and also vice versa for Comic nerds.


Are we forgetting that Marvel nerds have historically lowballed DC's God Tiers far worse than any Weeb did? You'll never hear from a Demonbane debater that Lucifer is only Universe level for example.


Are we forgetting the rivalries between DBZ and Saint Seiya? Rivalries within the HST?


Manga vs Comics dichotomy doesn't always exist, I mean, sometimes it does. But sometimes Weebs and Comic Nerds will eat among themselves first than the media from across the pacific.


It's not always that clear cut. And neither side BARELY makes for a unified force.


Weebs and Comic Nerds (some of either) who are into the Comic vs Manga rivalry sometimes try to make the delusion that they're like this unified force, but only certain sectors are. It's just an image, but it's really disorganized as hell.









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