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hopefully this is more fair
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this thread sums it up
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" Not really fair. HOTU Thanos is close to TOAA, even more closer than Living Tribunal, I believe, and Thought Robot ain't beating that. "The Thought Robot might beat LT. That is debatable. But I definitely see the HotU overcoming the Thought Robot.
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HOTU is just to muhc power
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hmm now its to much power lol ill figure out a good match for him
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IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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Thanos with HOTU stomp.
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Hotu Thanos stomps.
But Can Thought robot not win against who is not an omnipotent.
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@superdemon said:
IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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HOTU Thanos stomps
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Thought robot thought thanos out of existence
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@alucardvanwayne1800 said:
I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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Death Battle Superman > HOTU Thanos
All seriousness although TR is arguably more powerful than LT, I think he loses to Thanos due to the Heart basically being second to the One Above All
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That is Thought Robot(Superman cosmic armor), and that little disk is the whole DC multiverse.

And this is him walking in the overvoid, which is beyond the DC multiverse.
TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them. HoTU and TR are both plot devices, and probably the most powerful ones in their respective universes. But TR is strong than HoTU thanos, in a sense that he can think the HoTU out of existence, or he can crush the entire Marvel multiverse along with HoTU Thanos inside it, with his hands.
TR curbstomps.
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Yeah, not a fight, Thanos BFR's himself by walking away. This isn't worth his time.
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TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them.
LMFAO, either one of those three would curbstomp TR.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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@lan_fan: @cognitive: @brucerogers:
Thanos with HoTU was nigh-omnipotent, he was able to absorb the entire of the Marvel multiverse within him, but not anything beyond that. But, he did not achieve much in sense of the omniscience, as he was told by Adam Warlock how he was tricked and then he had to reconstruct the whole multiverse.
Now Thoans' biggest achieve in this was absorbing the multiverse with LT inside, who is said to be second only to TOAA, and HoTU is said to be a fraction of TOAA's power. But we have seen previously how LT has been overpowered by other cosmic beings, such as PR Beyonder(LT shitted his pants when he saw beyonder) and protege, and was superseded by Scathan the Approver, who was easily able to contain the protege.
OTOH, the monitors in DC are considered to be representations of the writers. And they exist beyond the creation. And Mandrakk(dark monitor) even kept the whole of creation in a jar and Mandrakk was beaten by TR.
Whereas Thanos(HoTU) is just nigh-omnipotent, Thought Robot otoh is omnipotent and omniscient. Because, he can feel the narrative progressing around him(omniscient) and can manipulate it(omnipotent). He is not of matter, he is purely an abstract being, a Though, not even energy. He can manipulate the story of the comics, and not just the creation, whereas Thanos(HoTU) can only manipulate the creation. And TR is aware of the readers and can hear their breathing and them grabbing the pages of the comic.
So, TR can just blink the HoTU out of existence or Thanos with HoTU out of existence.
TR wins
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Also, I will say that TR is to dc multiverse, what PR Beyonder is to Marvel multiverse. They are just beyond those puny creations, and immensely more powerful, than the whole of it.
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Thanos takes it with low difficulty.
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HOTU > Thought Robot
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@mega6382: He absorbed the main Marvel Universe, he didn't absorb the Marvel Multiverse and he was fully omniscient because he figured it out way before Adam told him.
He absorbed the Marvel Universe..and LT was beaten by characters that would blink TR out of existence so I don't get why you would lowball LT like that.
We're not debating hearsay, we're debating actual on-panel feats and The Monitors including Mandrakk get stomped by Thanos with HoTU.
Yeah nah, Thanos became omnipotent with HoTU, he says so himself and being aware of the readers isn't a combat feat, you're using so much speculation. He has no feats to suggest he can damage Thanos and Thanos has the feats to actually blink him out of existence.
No he can't, just stop, take a breather, read your own post again, and never, ever, call TR Omnipotent or Omniscient.
Thanos blinks with absolute ease.
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Monitors see the 52 Universes rotating through the Bleed as "Germs" and infinitesimal objects to the Monitors are described as being large inside our Universe, indicating through size scaling that Monitors are infinitely larger than 52 Universes during the Final Crisis one shot, so they may be Multiversalx52 through highballing.
The problem with Monitors is the constant discontinuous back and forth retcons of the DC Multiverse configuration. Actually, damn near every Cosmic in DC suffers from this issue that makes them susceptible to Marvel sider semantical nitpicks, except for Mxyzptlk and Anti-Monitor of course to name a few.
DC's Multiverse is retconned back from Multi-Universe to infinite again, but the configuration of Hypertime in relation to the rest of shown DC Multiverse Map is unknown for example. Most of what we know there is based on Flash's assessment.
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@rampagethefirst: You still ignored the fact that, TR can change the story itself. Also, like it's been said before it will most likely be a stalemate, and if anyone would win it will be TR.
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@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
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@rampagethefirst:Also, as you stated, that Thanos with HoTU only absorbed the main universe and not the whole multiverse, that just means he is even less powerful than I stated. So, HoTU is universe level, or multiverse level at best. Whereas Mandrakk is so far beyond multiverse level, he literally kept the whole multiverse in a JAR. and TR defeated him.
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@mega6382: If you're going to ignore my questions, don't bother replying and Thanos is easily Multiversal since he defeated Multiversal beings with ease. Mandrakk has no feats to suggest he's beyond Multiversal and TR defeated him by pushing him in the void, even then, he was still alive.
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@rampagethefirst said:
@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
Sorry, I missed that message of yours. Anyway, as it is said that Mandrakk can evolve to overcome the story he is in, and Thought Robot was constantly changing to keep up with Mandrakk. Also, Superman's and Ultraman's(anti matter) stories combined to form RT(and superman was the main driving force of the RT), and this was because Superman's story is the greatest(as he is the first superhero).
So, yes, when RT was evolving, he was changing the story, or at least the narrative of the story.
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@mega6382: Thanos isn't fighting TR in a comic, there is no plot. On comicvine, you use feats that happened on panel to justify who wins and right now, you're not using any, or better yet, TR doesn't have any good feats.
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#1
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hopefully this is more fair
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this thread sums it up
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" Not really fair. HOTU Thanos is close to TOAA, even more closer than Living Tribunal, I believe, and Thought Robot ain't beating that. "The Thought Robot might beat LT. That is debatable. But I definitely see the HotU overcoming the Thought Robot.
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HOTU is just to muhc power
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hmm now its to much power lol ill figure out a good match for him
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IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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Thanos with HOTU stomp.
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Hotu Thanos stomps.
But Can Thought robot not win against who is not an omnipotent.
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@superdemon said:
IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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HOTU Thanos stomps
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Thought robot thought thanos out of existence
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I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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Death Battle Superman > HOTU Thanos
All seriousness although TR is arguably more powerful than LT, I think he loses to Thanos due to the Heart basically being second to the One Above All
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That is Thought Robot(Superman cosmic armor), and that little disk is the whole DC multiverse.

And this is him walking in the overvoid, which is beyond the DC multiverse.
TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them. HoTU and TR are both plot devices, and probably the most powerful ones in their respective universes. But TR is strong than HoTU thanos, in a sense that he can think the HoTU out of existence, or he can crush the entire Marvel multiverse along with HoTU Thanos inside it, with his hands.
TR curbstomps.
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Yeah, not a fight, Thanos BFR's himself by walking away. This isn't worth his time.
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TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them.
LMFAO, either one of those three would curbstomp TR.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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@lan_fan: @cognitive: @brucerogers:
Thanos with HoTU was nigh-omnipotent, he was able to absorb the entire of the Marvel multiverse within him, but not anything beyond that. But, he did not achieve much in sense of the omniscience, as he was told by Adam Warlock how he was tricked and then he had to reconstruct the whole multiverse.
Now Thoans' biggest achieve in this was absorbing the multiverse with LT inside, who is said to be second only to TOAA, and HoTU is said to be a fraction of TOAA's power. But we have seen previously how LT has been overpowered by other cosmic beings, such as PR Beyonder(LT shitted his pants when he saw beyonder) and protege, and was superseded by Scathan the Approver, who was easily able to contain the protege.
OTOH, the monitors in DC are considered to be representations of the writers. And they exist beyond the creation. And Mandrakk(dark monitor) even kept the whole of creation in a jar and Mandrakk was beaten by TR.
Whereas Thanos(HoTU) is just nigh-omnipotent, Thought Robot otoh is omnipotent and omniscient. Because, he can feel the narrative progressing around him(omniscient) and can manipulate it(omnipotent). He is not of matter, he is purely an abstract being, a Though, not even energy. He can manipulate the story of the comics, and not just the creation, whereas Thanos(HoTU) can only manipulate the creation. And TR is aware of the readers and can hear their breathing and them grabbing the pages of the comic.
So, TR can just blink the HoTU out of existence or Thanos with HoTU out of existence.
TR wins
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Also, I will say that TR is to dc multiverse, what PR Beyonder is to Marvel multiverse. They are just beyond those puny creations, and immensely more powerful, than the whole of it.
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HOTU > Thought Robot
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@mega6382: He absorbed the main Marvel Universe, he didn't absorb the Marvel Multiverse and he was fully omniscient because he figured it out way before Adam told him.
He absorbed the Marvel Universe..and LT was beaten by characters that would blink TR out of existence so I don't get why you would lowball LT like that.
We're not debating hearsay, we're debating actual on-panel feats and The Monitors including Mandrakk get stomped by Thanos with HoTU.
Yeah nah, Thanos became omnipotent with HoTU, he says so himself and being aware of the readers isn't a combat feat, you're using so much speculation. He has no feats to suggest he can damage Thanos and Thanos has the feats to actually blink him out of existence.
No he can't, just stop, take a breather, read your own post again, and never, ever, call TR Omnipotent or Omniscient.
Thanos blinks with absolute ease.
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Monitors see the 52 Universes rotating through the Bleed as "Germs" and infinitesimal objects to the Monitors are described as being large inside our Universe, indicating through size scaling that Monitors are infinitely larger than 52 Universes during the Final Crisis one shot, so they may be Multiversalx52 through highballing.
The problem with Monitors is the constant discontinuous back and forth retcons of the DC Multiverse configuration. Actually, damn near every Cosmic in DC suffers from this issue that makes them susceptible to Marvel sider semantical nitpicks, except for Mxyzptlk and Anti-Monitor of course to name a few.
DC's Multiverse is retconned back from Multi-Universe to infinite again, but the configuration of Hypertime in relation to the rest of shown DC Multiverse Map is unknown for example. Most of what we know there is based on Flash's assessment.
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@rampagethefirst: You still ignored the fact that, TR can change the story itself. Also, like it's been said before it will most likely be a stalemate, and if anyone would win it will be TR.
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@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
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@rampagethefirst:Also, as you stated, that Thanos with HoTU only absorbed the main universe and not the whole multiverse, that just means he is even less powerful than I stated. So, HoTU is universe level, or multiverse level at best. Whereas Mandrakk is so far beyond multiverse level, he literally kept the whole multiverse in a JAR. and TR defeated him.
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@mega6382: If you're going to ignore my questions, don't bother replying and Thanos is easily Multiversal since he defeated Multiversal beings with ease. Mandrakk has no feats to suggest he's beyond Multiversal and TR defeated him by pushing him in the void, even then, he was still alive.
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@rampagethefirst said:
@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
Sorry, I missed that message of yours. Anyway, as it is said that Mandrakk can evolve to overcome the story he is in, and Thought Robot was constantly changing to keep up with Mandrakk. Also, Superman's and Ultraman's(anti matter) stories combined to form RT(and superman was the main driving force of the RT), and this was because Superman's story is the greatest(as he is the first superhero).
So, yes, when RT was evolving, he was changing the story, or at least the narrative of the story.
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@mega6382: Thanos isn't fighting TR in a comic, there is no plot. On comicvine, you use feats that happened on panel to justify who wins and right now, you're not using any, or better yet, TR doesn't have any good feats.
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hopefully this is more fair
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" Not really fair. HOTU Thanos is close to TOAA, even more closer than Living Tribunal, I believe, and Thought Robot ain't beating that. "The Thought Robot might beat LT. That is debatable. But I definitely see the HotU overcoming the Thought Robot.
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hmm now its to much power lol ill figure out a good match for him
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IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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Thanos with HOTU stomp.
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Hotu Thanos stomps.
But Can Thought robot not win against who is not an omnipotent.
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@superdemon said:
IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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Thought robot thought thanos out of existence
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@alucardvanwayne1800 said:
I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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Death Battle Superman > HOTU Thanos
All seriousness although TR is arguably more powerful than LT, I think he loses to Thanos due to the Heart basically being second to the One Above All
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That is Thought Robot(Superman cosmic armor), and that little disk is the whole DC multiverse.

And this is him walking in the overvoid, which is beyond the DC multiverse.
TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them. HoTU and TR are both plot devices, and probably the most powerful ones in their respective universes. But TR is strong than HoTU thanos, in a sense that he can think the HoTU out of existence, or he can crush the entire Marvel multiverse along with HoTU Thanos inside it, with his hands.
TR curbstomps.
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What the...
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Yeah, not a fight, Thanos BFR's himself by walking away. This isn't worth his time.
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TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them.
LMFAO, either one of those three would curbstomp TR.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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@brucerogers said:
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@lan_fan: @cognitive: @brucerogers:
Thanos with HoTU was nigh-omnipotent, he was able to absorb the entire of the Marvel multiverse within him, but not anything beyond that. But, he did not achieve much in sense of the omniscience, as he was told by Adam Warlock how he was tricked and then he had to reconstruct the whole multiverse.
Now Thoans' biggest achieve in this was absorbing the multiverse with LT inside, who is said to be second only to TOAA, and HoTU is said to be a fraction of TOAA's power. But we have seen previously how LT has been overpowered by other cosmic beings, such as PR Beyonder(LT shitted his pants when he saw beyonder) and protege, and was superseded by Scathan the Approver, who was easily able to contain the protege.
OTOH, the monitors in DC are considered to be representations of the writers. And they exist beyond the creation. And Mandrakk(dark monitor) even kept the whole of creation in a jar and Mandrakk was beaten by TR.
Whereas Thanos(HoTU) is just nigh-omnipotent, Thought Robot otoh is omnipotent and omniscient. Because, he can feel the narrative progressing around him(omniscient) and can manipulate it(omnipotent). He is not of matter, he is purely an abstract being, a Though, not even energy. He can manipulate the story of the comics, and not just the creation, whereas Thanos(HoTU) can only manipulate the creation. And TR is aware of the readers and can hear their breathing and them grabbing the pages of the comic.
So, TR can just blink the HoTU out of existence or Thanos with HoTU out of existence.
TR wins
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Also, I will say that TR is to dc multiverse, what PR Beyonder is to Marvel multiverse. They are just beyond those puny creations, and immensely more powerful, than the whole of it.
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Thanos takes it with low difficulty.
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HOTU > Thought Robot
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@mega6382: He absorbed the main Marvel Universe, he didn't absorb the Marvel Multiverse and he was fully omniscient because he figured it out way before Adam told him.
He absorbed the Marvel Universe..and LT was beaten by characters that would blink TR out of existence so I don't get why you would lowball LT like that.
We're not debating hearsay, we're debating actual on-panel feats and The Monitors including Mandrakk get stomped by Thanos with HoTU.
Yeah nah, Thanos became omnipotent with HoTU, he says so himself and being aware of the readers isn't a combat feat, you're using so much speculation. He has no feats to suggest he can damage Thanos and Thanos has the feats to actually blink him out of existence.
No he can't, just stop, take a breather, read your own post again, and never, ever, call TR Omnipotent or Omniscient.
Thanos blinks with absolute ease.
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Monitors see the 52 Universes rotating through the Bleed as "Germs" and infinitesimal objects to the Monitors are described as being large inside our Universe, indicating through size scaling that Monitors are infinitely larger than 52 Universes during the Final Crisis one shot, so they may be Multiversalx52 through highballing.
The problem with Monitors is the constant discontinuous back and forth retcons of the DC Multiverse configuration. Actually, damn near every Cosmic in DC suffers from this issue that makes them susceptible to Marvel sider semantical nitpicks, except for Mxyzptlk and Anti-Monitor of course to name a few.
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@rampagethefirst: You still ignored the fact that, TR can change the story itself. Also, like it's been said before it will most likely be a stalemate, and if anyone would win it will be TR.
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#30
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@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
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@rampagethefirst:Also, as you stated, that Thanos with HoTU only absorbed the main universe and not the whole multiverse, that just means he is even less powerful than I stated. So, HoTU is universe level, or multiverse level at best. Whereas Mandrakk is so far beyond multiverse level, he literally kept the whole multiverse in a JAR. and TR defeated him.
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@mega6382: If you're going to ignore my questions, don't bother replying and Thanos is easily Multiversal since he defeated Multiversal beings with ease. Mandrakk has no feats to suggest he's beyond Multiversal and TR defeated him by pushing him in the void, even then, he was still alive.
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@rampagethefirst said:
@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
Sorry, I missed that message of yours. Anyway, as it is said that Mandrakk can evolve to overcome the story he is in, and Thought Robot was constantly changing to keep up with Mandrakk. Also, Superman's and Ultraman's(anti matter) stories combined to form RT(and superman was the main driving force of the RT), and this was because Superman's story is the greatest(as he is the first superhero).
So, yes, when RT was evolving, he was changing the story, or at least the narrative of the story.
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@mega6382: Thanos isn't fighting TR in a comic, there is no plot. On comicvine, you use feats that happened on panel to justify who wins and right now, you're not using any, or better yet, TR doesn't have any good feats.
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hopefully this is more fair
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this thread sums it up
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" Not really fair. HOTU Thanos is close to TOAA, even more closer than Living Tribunal, I believe, and Thought Robot ain't beating that. "The Thought Robot might beat LT. That is debatable. But I definitely see the HotU overcoming the Thought Robot.
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HOTU is just to muhc power
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hmm now its to much power lol ill figure out a good match for him
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IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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Thanos with HOTU stomp.
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Hotu Thanos stomps.
But Can Thought robot not win against who is not an omnipotent.
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@superdemon said:
IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
This
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I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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HOTU Thanos stomps
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Thought robot thought thanos out of existence
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@alucardvanwayne1800 said:
I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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Death Battle Superman > HOTU Thanos
All seriousness although TR is arguably more powerful than LT, I think he loses to Thanos due to the Heart basically being second to the One Above All
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That is Thought Robot(Superman cosmic armor), and that little disk is the whole DC multiverse.

And this is him walking in the overvoid, which is beyond the DC multiverse.
TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them. HoTU and TR are both plot devices, and probably the most powerful ones in their respective universes. But TR is strong than HoTU thanos, in a sense that he can think the HoTU out of existence, or he can crush the entire Marvel multiverse along with HoTU Thanos inside it, with his hands.
TR curbstomps.
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Yeah, not a fight, Thanos BFR's himself by walking away. This isn't worth his time.
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TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them.
LMFAO, either one of those three would curbstomp TR.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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@lan_fan: @cognitive: @brucerogers:
Thanos with HoTU was nigh-omnipotent, he was able to absorb the entire of the Marvel multiverse within him, but not anything beyond that. But, he did not achieve much in sense of the omniscience, as he was told by Adam Warlock how he was tricked and then he had to reconstruct the whole multiverse.
Now Thoans' biggest achieve in this was absorbing the multiverse with LT inside, who is said to be second only to TOAA, and HoTU is said to be a fraction of TOAA's power. But we have seen previously how LT has been overpowered by other cosmic beings, such as PR Beyonder(LT shitted his pants when he saw beyonder) and protege, and was superseded by Scathan the Approver, who was easily able to contain the protege.
OTOH, the monitors in DC are considered to be representations of the writers. And they exist beyond the creation. And Mandrakk(dark monitor) even kept the whole of creation in a jar and Mandrakk was beaten by TR.
Whereas Thanos(HoTU) is just nigh-omnipotent, Thought Robot otoh is omnipotent and omniscient. Because, he can feel the narrative progressing around him(omniscient) and can manipulate it(omnipotent). He is not of matter, he is purely an abstract being, a Though, not even energy. He can manipulate the story of the comics, and not just the creation, whereas Thanos(HoTU) can only manipulate the creation. And TR is aware of the readers and can hear their breathing and them grabbing the pages of the comic.
So, TR can just blink the HoTU out of existence or Thanos with HoTU out of existence.
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Also, I will say that TR is to dc multiverse, what PR Beyonder is to Marvel multiverse. They are just beyond those puny creations, and immensely more powerful, than the whole of it.
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Thanos takes it with low difficulty.
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HOTU > Thought Robot
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@mega6382: He absorbed the main Marvel Universe, he didn't absorb the Marvel Multiverse and he was fully omniscient because he figured it out way before Adam told him.
He absorbed the Marvel Universe..and LT was beaten by characters that would blink TR out of existence so I don't get why you would lowball LT like that.
We're not debating hearsay, we're debating actual on-panel feats and The Monitors including Mandrakk get stomped by Thanos with HoTU.
Yeah nah, Thanos became omnipotent with HoTU, he says so himself and being aware of the readers isn't a combat feat, you're using so much speculation. He has no feats to suggest he can damage Thanos and Thanos has the feats to actually blink him out of existence.
No he can't, just stop, take a breather, read your own post again, and never, ever, call TR Omnipotent or Omniscient.
Thanos blinks with absolute ease.
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Monitors see the 52 Universes rotating through the Bleed as "Germs" and infinitesimal objects to the Monitors are described as being large inside our Universe, indicating through size scaling that Monitors are infinitely larger than 52 Universes during the Final Crisis one shot, so they may be Multiversalx52 through highballing.
The problem with Monitors is the constant discontinuous back and forth retcons of the DC Multiverse configuration. Actually, damn near every Cosmic in DC suffers from this issue that makes them susceptible to Marvel sider semantical nitpicks, except for Mxyzptlk and Anti-Monitor of course to name a few.
DC's Multiverse is retconned back from Multi-Universe to infinite again, but the configuration of Hypertime in relation to the rest of shown DC Multiverse Map is unknown for example. Most of what we know there is based on Flash's assessment.
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@rampagethefirst: You still ignored the fact that, TR can change the story itself. Also, like it's been said before it will most likely be a stalemate, and if anyone would win it will be TR.
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@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
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@rampagethefirst:Also, as you stated, that Thanos with HoTU only absorbed the main universe and not the whole multiverse, that just means he is even less powerful than I stated. So, HoTU is universe level, or multiverse level at best. Whereas Mandrakk is so far beyond multiverse level, he literally kept the whole multiverse in a JAR. and TR defeated him.
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@mega6382: If you're going to ignore my questions, don't bother replying and Thanos is easily Multiversal since he defeated Multiversal beings with ease. Mandrakk has no feats to suggest he's beyond Multiversal and TR defeated him by pushing him in the void, even then, he was still alive.
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@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
Sorry, I missed that message of yours. Anyway, as it is said that Mandrakk can evolve to overcome the story he is in, and Thought Robot was constantly changing to keep up with Mandrakk. Also, Superman's and Ultraman's(anti matter) stories combined to form RT(and superman was the main driving force of the RT), and this was because Superman's story is the greatest(as he is the first superhero).
So, yes, when RT was evolving, he was changing the story, or at least the narrative of the story.
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@mega6382: Thanos isn't fighting TR in a comic, there is no plot. On comicvine, you use feats that happened on panel to justify who wins and right now, you're not using any, or better yet, TR doesn't have any good feats.
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hopefully this is more fair
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this thread sums it up
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" Not really fair. HOTU Thanos is close to TOAA, even more closer than Living Tribunal, I believe, and Thought Robot ain't beating that. "The Thought Robot might beat LT. That is debatable. But I definitely see the HotU overcoming the Thought Robot.
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HOTU is just to muhc power
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hmm now its to much power lol ill figure out a good match for him
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IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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Thanos with HOTU stomp.
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Hotu Thanos stomps.
But Can Thought robot not win against who is not an omnipotent.
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@superdemon said:
IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
This
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I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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HOTU Thanos stomps
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Thought robot thought thanos out of existence
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@alucardvanwayne1800 said:
I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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Death Battle Superman > HOTU Thanos
All seriousness although TR is arguably more powerful than LT, I think he loses to Thanos due to the Heart basically being second to the One Above All
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That is Thought Robot(Superman cosmic armor), and that little disk is the whole DC multiverse.

And this is him walking in the overvoid, which is beyond the DC multiverse.
TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them. HoTU and TR are both plot devices, and probably the most powerful ones in their respective universes. But TR is strong than HoTU thanos, in a sense that he can think the HoTU out of existence, or he can crush the entire Marvel multiverse along with HoTU Thanos inside it, with his hands.
TR curbstomps.
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Yeah, not a fight, Thanos BFR's himself by walking away. This isn't worth his time.
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TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them.
LMFAO, either one of those three would curbstomp TR.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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@lan_fan: @cognitive: @brucerogers:
Thanos with HoTU was nigh-omnipotent, he was able to absorb the entire of the Marvel multiverse within him, but not anything beyond that. But, he did not achieve much in sense of the omniscience, as he was told by Adam Warlock how he was tricked and then he had to reconstruct the whole multiverse.
Now Thoans' biggest achieve in this was absorbing the multiverse with LT inside, who is said to be second only to TOAA, and HoTU is said to be a fraction of TOAA's power. But we have seen previously how LT has been overpowered by other cosmic beings, such as PR Beyonder(LT shitted his pants when he saw beyonder) and protege, and was superseded by Scathan the Approver, who was easily able to contain the protege.
OTOH, the monitors in DC are considered to be representations of the writers. And they exist beyond the creation. And Mandrakk(dark monitor) even kept the whole of creation in a jar and Mandrakk was beaten by TR.
Whereas Thanos(HoTU) is just nigh-omnipotent, Thought Robot otoh is omnipotent and omniscient. Because, he can feel the narrative progressing around him(omniscient) and can manipulate it(omnipotent). He is not of matter, he is purely an abstract being, a Though, not even energy. He can manipulate the story of the comics, and not just the creation, whereas Thanos(HoTU) can only manipulate the creation. And TR is aware of the readers and can hear their breathing and them grabbing the pages of the comic.
So, TR can just blink the HoTU out of existence or Thanos with HoTU out of existence.
TR wins
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Also, I will say that TR is to dc multiverse, what PR Beyonder is to Marvel multiverse. They are just beyond those puny creations, and immensely more powerful, than the whole of it.
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Thanos takes it with low difficulty.
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HOTU > Thought Robot
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@mega6382: He absorbed the main Marvel Universe, he didn't absorb the Marvel Multiverse and he was fully omniscient because he figured it out way before Adam told him.
He absorbed the Marvel Universe..and LT was beaten by characters that would blink TR out of existence so I don't get why you would lowball LT like that.
We're not debating hearsay, we're debating actual on-panel feats and The Monitors including Mandrakk get stomped by Thanos with HoTU.
Yeah nah, Thanos became omnipotent with HoTU, he says so himself and being aware of the readers isn't a combat feat, you're using so much speculation. He has no feats to suggest he can damage Thanos and Thanos has the feats to actually blink him out of existence.
No he can't, just stop, take a breather, read your own post again, and never, ever, call TR Omnipotent or Omniscient.
Thanos blinks with absolute ease.
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Monitors see the 52 Universes rotating through the Bleed as "Germs" and infinitesimal objects to the Monitors are described as being large inside our Universe, indicating through size scaling that Monitors are infinitely larger than 52 Universes during the Final Crisis one shot, so they may be Multiversalx52 through highballing.
The problem with Monitors is the constant discontinuous back and forth retcons of the DC Multiverse configuration. Actually, damn near every Cosmic in DC suffers from this issue that makes them susceptible to Marvel sider semantical nitpicks, except for Mxyzptlk and Anti-Monitor of course to name a few.
DC's Multiverse is retconned back from Multi-Universe to infinite again, but the configuration of Hypertime in relation to the rest of shown DC Multiverse Map is unknown for example. Most of what we know there is based on Flash's assessment.
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@rampagethefirst: You still ignored the fact that, TR can change the story itself. Also, like it's been said before it will most likely be a stalemate, and if anyone would win it will be TR.
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@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
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@rampagethefirst:Also, as you stated, that Thanos with HoTU only absorbed the main universe and not the whole multiverse, that just means he is even less powerful than I stated. So, HoTU is universe level, or multiverse level at best. Whereas Mandrakk is so far beyond multiverse level, he literally kept the whole multiverse in a JAR. and TR defeated him.
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@mega6382: If you're going to ignore my questions, don't bother replying and Thanos is easily Multiversal since he defeated Multiversal beings with ease. Mandrakk has no feats to suggest he's beyond Multiversal and TR defeated him by pushing him in the void, even then, he was still alive.
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@rampagethefirst said:
@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
Sorry, I missed that message of yours. Anyway, as it is said that Mandrakk can evolve to overcome the story he is in, and Thought Robot was constantly changing to keep up with Mandrakk. Also, Superman's and Ultraman's(anti matter) stories combined to form RT(and superman was the main driving force of the RT), and this was because Superman's story is the greatest(as he is the first superhero).
So, yes, when RT was evolving, he was changing the story, or at least the narrative of the story.
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@mega6382: Thanos isn't fighting TR in a comic, there is no plot. On comicvine, you use feats that happened on panel to justify who wins and right now, you're not using any, or better yet, TR doesn't have any good feats.
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hopefully this is more fair
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this thread sums it up
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" Not really fair. HOTU Thanos is close to TOAA, even more closer than Living Tribunal, I believe, and Thought Robot ain't beating that. "The Thought Robot might beat LT. That is debatable. But I definitely see the HotU overcoming the Thought Robot.
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hmm now its to much power lol ill figure out a good match for him
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IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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Thanos with HOTU stomp.
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Hotu Thanos stomps.
But Can Thought robot not win against who is not an omnipotent.
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@superdemon said:
IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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HOTU Thanos stomps
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Thought robot thought thanos out of existence
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@alucardvanwayne1800 said:
I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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Death Battle Superman > HOTU Thanos
All seriousness although TR is arguably more powerful than LT, I think he loses to Thanos due to the Heart basically being second to the One Above All
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That is Thought Robot(Superman cosmic armor), and that little disk is the whole DC multiverse.

And this is him walking in the overvoid, which is beyond the DC multiverse.
TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them. HoTU and TR are both plot devices, and probably the most powerful ones in their respective universes. But TR is strong than HoTU thanos, in a sense that he can think the HoTU out of existence, or he can crush the entire Marvel multiverse along with HoTU Thanos inside it, with his hands.
TR curbstomps.
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Yeah, not a fight, Thanos BFR's himself by walking away. This isn't worth his time.
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TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them.
LMFAO, either one of those three would curbstomp TR.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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@lan_fan: @cognitive: @brucerogers:
Thanos with HoTU was nigh-omnipotent, he was able to absorb the entire of the Marvel multiverse within him, but not anything beyond that. But, he did not achieve much in sense of the omniscience, as he was told by Adam Warlock how he was tricked and then he had to reconstruct the whole multiverse.
Now Thoans' biggest achieve in this was absorbing the multiverse with LT inside, who is said to be second only to TOAA, and HoTU is said to be a fraction of TOAA's power. But we have seen previously how LT has been overpowered by other cosmic beings, such as PR Beyonder(LT shitted his pants when he saw beyonder) and protege, and was superseded by Scathan the Approver, who was easily able to contain the protege.
OTOH, the monitors in DC are considered to be representations of the writers. And they exist beyond the creation. And Mandrakk(dark monitor) even kept the whole of creation in a jar and Mandrakk was beaten by TR.
Whereas Thanos(HoTU) is just nigh-omnipotent, Thought Robot otoh is omnipotent and omniscient. Because, he can feel the narrative progressing around him(omniscient) and can manipulate it(omnipotent). He is not of matter, he is purely an abstract being, a Though, not even energy. He can manipulate the story of the comics, and not just the creation, whereas Thanos(HoTU) can only manipulate the creation. And TR is aware of the readers and can hear their breathing and them grabbing the pages of the comic.
So, TR can just blink the HoTU out of existence or Thanos with HoTU out of existence.
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Also, I will say that TR is to dc multiverse, what PR Beyonder is to Marvel multiverse. They are just beyond those puny creations, and immensely more powerful, than the whole of it.
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Thanos takes it with low difficulty.
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HOTU > Thought Robot
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@mega6382: He absorbed the main Marvel Universe, he didn't absorb the Marvel Multiverse and he was fully omniscient because he figured it out way before Adam told him.
He absorbed the Marvel Universe..and LT was beaten by characters that would blink TR out of existence so I don't get why you would lowball LT like that.
We're not debating hearsay, we're debating actual on-panel feats and The Monitors including Mandrakk get stomped by Thanos with HoTU.
Yeah nah, Thanos became omnipotent with HoTU, he says so himself and being aware of the readers isn't a combat feat, you're using so much speculation. He has no feats to suggest he can damage Thanos and Thanos has the feats to actually blink him out of existence.
No he can't, just stop, take a breather, read your own post again, and never, ever, call TR Omnipotent or Omniscient.
Thanos blinks with absolute ease.
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Monitors see the 52 Universes rotating through the Bleed as "Germs" and infinitesimal objects to the Monitors are described as being large inside our Universe, indicating through size scaling that Monitors are infinitely larger than 52 Universes during the Final Crisis one shot, so they may be Multiversalx52 through highballing.
The problem with Monitors is the constant discontinuous back and forth retcons of the DC Multiverse configuration. Actually, damn near every Cosmic in DC suffers from this issue that makes them susceptible to Marvel sider semantical nitpicks, except for Mxyzptlk and Anti-Monitor of course to name a few.
DC's Multiverse is retconned back from Multi-Universe to infinite again, but the configuration of Hypertime in relation to the rest of shown DC Multiverse Map is unknown for example. Most of what we know there is based on Flash's assessment.
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@rampagethefirst: You still ignored the fact that, TR can change the story itself. Also, like it's been said before it will most likely be a stalemate, and if anyone would win it will be TR.
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@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
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@rampagethefirst:Also, as you stated, that Thanos with HoTU only absorbed the main universe and not the whole multiverse, that just means he is even less powerful than I stated. So, HoTU is universe level, or multiverse level at best. Whereas Mandrakk is so far beyond multiverse level, he literally kept the whole multiverse in a JAR. and TR defeated him.
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@mega6382: If you're going to ignore my questions, don't bother replying and Thanos is easily Multiversal since he defeated Multiversal beings with ease. Mandrakk has no feats to suggest he's beyond Multiversal and TR defeated him by pushing him in the void, even then, he was still alive.
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@rampagethefirst said:
@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
Sorry, I missed that message of yours. Anyway, as it is said that Mandrakk can evolve to overcome the story he is in, and Thought Robot was constantly changing to keep up with Mandrakk. Also, Superman's and Ultraman's(anti matter) stories combined to form RT(and superman was the main driving force of the RT), and this was because Superman's story is the greatest(as he is the first superhero).
So, yes, when RT was evolving, he was changing the story, or at least the narrative of the story.
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@mega6382: Thanos isn't fighting TR in a comic, there is no plot. On comicvine, you use feats that happened on panel to justify who wins and right now, you're not using any, or better yet, TR doesn't have any good feats.
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hopefully this is more fair
no bfr
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this thread sums it up
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t508207.html
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" Not really fair. HOTU Thanos is close to TOAA, even more closer than Living Tribunal, I believe, and Thought Robot ain't beating that. "The Thought Robot might beat LT. That is debatable. But I definitely see the HotU overcoming the Thought Robot.
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HOTU is just to muhc power
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hmm now its to much power lol ill figure out a good match for him
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IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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Thanos with HOTU stomp.
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Hotu Thanos stomps.
But Can Thought robot not win against who is not an omnipotent.
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@superdemon said:
IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
This
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I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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HOTU Thanos stomps
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Thought robot thought thanos out of existence
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I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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Death Battle Superman > HOTU Thanos
All seriousness although TR is arguably more powerful than LT, I think he loses to Thanos due to the Heart basically being second to the One Above All
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That is Thought Robot(Superman cosmic armor), and that little disk is the whole DC multiverse.

And this is him walking in the overvoid, which is beyond the DC multiverse.
TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them. HoTU and TR are both plot devices, and probably the most powerful ones in their respective universes. But TR is strong than HoTU thanos, in a sense that he can think the HoTU out of existence, or he can crush the entire Marvel multiverse along with HoTU Thanos inside it, with his hands.
TR curbstomps.
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Yeah, not a fight, Thanos BFR's himself by walking away. This isn't worth his time.
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TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them.
LMFAO, either one of those three would curbstomp TR.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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@lan_fan: @cognitive: @brucerogers:
Thanos with HoTU was nigh-omnipotent, he was able to absorb the entire of the Marvel multiverse within him, but not anything beyond that. But, he did not achieve much in sense of the omniscience, as he was told by Adam Warlock how he was tricked and then he had to reconstruct the whole multiverse.
Now Thoans' biggest achieve in this was absorbing the multiverse with LT inside, who is said to be second only to TOAA, and HoTU is said to be a fraction of TOAA's power. But we have seen previously how LT has been overpowered by other cosmic beings, such as PR Beyonder(LT shitted his pants when he saw beyonder) and protege, and was superseded by Scathan the Approver, who was easily able to contain the protege.
OTOH, the monitors in DC are considered to be representations of the writers. And they exist beyond the creation. And Mandrakk(dark monitor) even kept the whole of creation in a jar and Mandrakk was beaten by TR.
Whereas Thanos(HoTU) is just nigh-omnipotent, Thought Robot otoh is omnipotent and omniscient. Because, he can feel the narrative progressing around him(omniscient) and can manipulate it(omnipotent). He is not of matter, he is purely an abstract being, a Though, not even energy. He can manipulate the story of the comics, and not just the creation, whereas Thanos(HoTU) can only manipulate the creation. And TR is aware of the readers and can hear their breathing and them grabbing the pages of the comic.
So, TR can just blink the HoTU out of existence or Thanos with HoTU out of existence.
TR wins
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Also, I will say that TR is to dc multiverse, what PR Beyonder is to Marvel multiverse. They are just beyond those puny creations, and immensely more powerful, than the whole of it.
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Thanos takes it with low difficulty.
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HOTU > Thought Robot
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@mega6382: He absorbed the main Marvel Universe, he didn't absorb the Marvel Multiverse and he was fully omniscient because he figured it out way before Adam told him.
He absorbed the Marvel Universe..and LT was beaten by characters that would blink TR out of existence so I don't get why you would lowball LT like that.
We're not debating hearsay, we're debating actual on-panel feats and The Monitors including Mandrakk get stomped by Thanos with HoTU.
Yeah nah, Thanos became omnipotent with HoTU, he says so himself and being aware of the readers isn't a combat feat, you're using so much speculation. He has no feats to suggest he can damage Thanos and Thanos has the feats to actually blink him out of existence.
No he can't, just stop, take a breather, read your own post again, and never, ever, call TR Omnipotent or Omniscient.
Thanos blinks with absolute ease.
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Monitors see the 52 Universes rotating through the Bleed as "Germs" and infinitesimal objects to the Monitors are described as being large inside our Universe, indicating through size scaling that Monitors are infinitely larger than 52 Universes during the Final Crisis one shot, so they may be Multiversalx52 through highballing.
The problem with Monitors is the constant discontinuous back and forth retcons of the DC Multiverse configuration. Actually, damn near every Cosmic in DC suffers from this issue that makes them susceptible to Marvel sider semantical nitpicks, except for Mxyzptlk and Anti-Monitor of course to name a few.
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@rampagethefirst: You still ignored the fact that, TR can change the story itself. Also, like it's been said before it will most likely be a stalemate, and if anyone would win it will be TR.
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@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
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@rampagethefirst:Also, as you stated, that Thanos with HoTU only absorbed the main universe and not the whole multiverse, that just means he is even less powerful than I stated. So, HoTU is universe level, or multiverse level at best. Whereas Mandrakk is so far beyond multiverse level, he literally kept the whole multiverse in a JAR. and TR defeated him.
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@mega6382: If you're going to ignore my questions, don't bother replying and Thanos is easily Multiversal since he defeated Multiversal beings with ease. Mandrakk has no feats to suggest he's beyond Multiversal and TR defeated him by pushing him in the void, even then, he was still alive.
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@rampagethefirst said:
@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
Sorry, I missed that message of yours. Anyway, as it is said that Mandrakk can evolve to overcome the story he is in, and Thought Robot was constantly changing to keep up with Mandrakk. Also, Superman's and Ultraman's(anti matter) stories combined to form RT(and superman was the main driving force of the RT), and this was because Superman's story is the greatest(as he is the first superhero).
So, yes, when RT was evolving, he was changing the story, or at least the narrative of the story.
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@mega6382: Thanos isn't fighting TR in a comic, there is no plot. On comicvine, you use feats that happened on panel to justify who wins and right now, you're not using any, or better yet, TR doesn't have any good feats.
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hopefully this is more fair
no bfr
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hopefully this is more fair
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this thread sums it up
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this thread sums it up
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this thread sums it up
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this thread sums it up
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" Not really fair. HOTU Thanos is close to TOAA, even more closer than Living Tribunal, I believe, and Thought Robot ain't beating that. "The Thought Robot might beat LT. That is debatable. But I definitely see the HotU overcoming the Thought Robot.
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" Not really fair. HOTU Thanos is close to TOAA, even more closer than Living Tribunal, I believe, and Thought Robot ain't beating that. "The Thought Robot might beat LT. That is debatable. But I definitely see the HotU overcoming the Thought Robot.
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" Not really fair. HOTU Thanos is close to TOAA, even more closer than Living Tribunal, I believe, and Thought Robot ain't beating that. "The Thought Robot might beat LT. That is debatable. But I definitely see the HotU overcoming the Thought Robot.
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" Not really fair. HOTU Thanos is close to TOAA, even more closer than Living Tribunal, I believe, and Thought Robot ain't beating that. "The Thought Robot might beat LT. That is debatable. But I definitely see the HotU overcoming the Thought Robot.
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HOTU is just to muhc power
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HOTU is just to muhc power
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hmm now its to much power lol ill figure out a good match for him
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hmm now its to much power lol ill figure out a good match for him
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IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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Thanos with HOTU stomp.
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Thanos with HOTU stomp.
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Thanos with HOTU stomp.
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Thanos with HOTU stomp.
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Hotu Thanos stomps.
But Can Thought robot not win against who is not an omnipotent.
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Hotu Thanos stomps.
But Can Thought robot not win against who is not an omnipotent.
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Hotu Thanos stomps.
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Hotu Thanos stomps.
But Can Thought robot not win against who is not an omnipotent.
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@superdemon said:
IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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@superdemon said:
IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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@superdemon said:
IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
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@superdemon said:
IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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IIRC Thought robot was basically the writer protecting DC comics all together. That > TOAA IMO.
I hate to go against Thanos, but I think Thought Robot might be able to change HoTU into Heart of the Nothingness.
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I wanna see deathbattle try to do the f**king math on this one jesus
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HOTU Thanos stomps
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HOTU Thanos stomps
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HOTU Thanos stomps
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Thought robot thought thanos out of existence
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Thought robot thought thanos out of existence
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Thought robot thought thanos out of existence
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Thought robot thought thanos out of existence
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@alucardvanwayne1800 said:
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Death Battle Superman > HOTU Thanos
All seriousness although TR is arguably more powerful than LT, I think he loses to Thanos due to the Heart basically being second to the One Above All
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Death Battle Superman > HOTU Thanos
All seriousness although TR is arguably more powerful than LT, I think he loses to Thanos due to the Heart basically being second to the One Above All
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Death Battle Superman > HOTU Thanos
All seriousness although TR is arguably more powerful than LT, I think he loses to Thanos due to the Heart basically being second to the One Above All
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Death Battle Superman > HOTU Thanos
All seriousness although TR is arguably more powerful than LT, I think he loses to Thanos due to the Heart basically being second to the One Above All
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That is Thought Robot(Superman cosmic armor), and that little disk is the whole DC multiverse.

And this is him walking in the overvoid, which is beyond the DC multiverse.
TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them. HoTU and TR are both plot devices, and probably the most powerful ones in their respective universes. But TR is strong than HoTU thanos, in a sense that he can think the HoTU out of existence, or he can crush the entire Marvel multiverse along with HoTU Thanos inside it, with his hands.
TR curbstomps.
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That is Thought Robot(Superman cosmic armor), and that little disk is the whole DC multiverse.

And this is him walking in the overvoid, which is beyond the DC multiverse.
TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them. HoTU and TR are both plot devices, and probably the most powerful ones in their respective universes. But TR is strong than HoTU thanos, in a sense that he can think the HoTU out of existence, or he can crush the entire Marvel multiverse along with HoTU Thanos inside it, with his hands.
TR curbstomps.
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That is Thought Robot(Superman cosmic armor), and that little disk is the whole DC multiverse.

And this is him walking in the overvoid, which is beyond the DC multiverse.
TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them. HoTU and TR are both plot devices, and probably the most powerful ones in their respective universes. But TR is strong than HoTU thanos, in a sense that he can think the HoTU out of existence, or he can crush the entire Marvel multiverse along with HoTU Thanos inside it, with his hands.
TR curbstomps.
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That is Thought Robot(Superman cosmic armor), and that little disk is the whole DC multiverse.

And this is him walking in the overvoid, which is beyond the DC multiverse.
TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them. HoTU and TR are both plot devices, and probably the most powerful ones in their respective universes. But TR is strong than HoTU thanos, in a sense that he can think the HoTU out of existence, or he can crush the entire Marvel multiverse along with HoTU Thanos inside it, with his hands.
TR curbstomps.
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Yeah, not a fight, Thanos BFR's himself by walking away. This isn't worth his time.
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Yeah, not a fight, Thanos BFR's himself by walking away. This isn't worth his time.
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Yeah, not a fight, Thanos BFR's himself by walking away. This isn't worth his time.
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Yeah, not a fight, Thanos BFR's himself by walking away. This isn't worth his time.
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TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them.
LMFAO, either one of those three would curbstomp TR.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them.
LMFAO, either one of those three would curbstomp TR.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them.
LMFAO, either one of those three would curbstomp TR.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them.
LMFAO, either one of those three would curbstomp TR.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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@lan_fan: @cognitive: @brucerogers:
Thanos with HoTU was nigh-omnipotent, he was able to absorb the entire of the Marvel multiverse within him, but not anything beyond that. But, he did not achieve much in sense of the omniscience, as he was told by Adam Warlock how he was tricked and then he had to reconstruct the whole multiverse.
Now Thoans' biggest achieve in this was absorbing the multiverse with LT inside, who is said to be second only to TOAA, and HoTU is said to be a fraction of TOAA's power. But we have seen previously how LT has been overpowered by other cosmic beings, such as PR Beyonder(LT shitted his pants when he saw beyonder) and protege, and was superseded by Scathan the Approver, who was easily able to contain the protege.
OTOH, the monitors in DC are considered to be representations of the writers. And they exist beyond the creation. And Mandrakk(dark monitor) even kept the whole of creation in a jar and Mandrakk was beaten by TR.
Whereas Thanos(HoTU) is just nigh-omnipotent, Thought Robot otoh is omnipotent and omniscient. Because, he can feel the narrative progressing around him(omniscient) and can manipulate it(omnipotent). He is not of matter, he is purely an abstract being, a Though, not even energy. He can manipulate the story of the comics, and not just the creation, whereas Thanos(HoTU) can only manipulate the creation. And TR is aware of the readers and can hear their breathing and them grabbing the pages of the comic.
So, TR can just blink the HoTU out of existence or Thanos with HoTU out of existence.
TR wins
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@lan_fan: @cognitive: @brucerogers:
Thanos with HoTU was nigh-omnipotent, he was able to absorb the entire of the Marvel multiverse within him, but not anything beyond that. But, he did not achieve much in sense of the omniscience, as he was told by Adam Warlock how he was tricked and then he had to reconstruct the whole multiverse.
Now Thoans' biggest achieve in this was absorbing the multiverse with LT inside, who is said to be second only to TOAA, and HoTU is said to be a fraction of TOAA's power. But we have seen previously how LT has been overpowered by other cosmic beings, such as PR Beyonder(LT shitted his pants when he saw beyonder) and protege, and was superseded by Scathan the Approver, who was easily able to contain the protege.
OTOH, the monitors in DC are considered to be representations of the writers. And they exist beyond the creation. And Mandrakk(dark monitor) even kept the whole of creation in a jar and Mandrakk was beaten by TR.
Whereas Thanos(HoTU) is just nigh-omnipotent, Thought Robot otoh is omnipotent and omniscient. Because, he can feel the narrative progressing around him(omniscient) and can manipulate it(omnipotent). He is not of matter, he is purely an abstract being, a Though, not even energy. He can manipulate the story of the comics, and not just the creation, whereas Thanos(HoTU) can only manipulate the creation. And TR is aware of the readers and can hear their breathing and them grabbing the pages of the comic.
So, TR can just blink the HoTU out of existence or Thanos with HoTU out of existence.
TR wins
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@lan_fan: @cognitive: @brucerogers:
Thanos with HoTU was nigh-omnipotent, he was able to absorb the entire of the Marvel multiverse within him, but not anything beyond that. But, he did not achieve much in sense of the omniscience, as he was told by Adam Warlock how he was tricked and then he had to reconstruct the whole multiverse.
Now Thoans' biggest achieve in this was absorbing the multiverse with LT inside, who is said to be second only to TOAA, and HoTU is said to be a fraction of TOAA's power. But we have seen previously how LT has been overpowered by other cosmic beings, such as PR Beyonder(LT shitted his pants when he saw beyonder) and protege, and was superseded by Scathan the Approver, who was easily able to contain the protege.
OTOH, the monitors in DC are considered to be representations of the writers. And they exist beyond the creation. And Mandrakk(dark monitor) even kept the whole of creation in a jar and Mandrakk was beaten by TR.
Whereas Thanos(HoTU) is just nigh-omnipotent, Thought Robot otoh is omnipotent and omniscient. Because, he can feel the narrative progressing around him(omniscient) and can manipulate it(omnipotent). He is not of matter, he is purely an abstract being, a Though, not even energy. He can manipulate the story of the comics, and not just the creation, whereas Thanos(HoTU) can only manipulate the creation. And TR is aware of the readers and can hear their breathing and them grabbing the pages of the comic.
So, TR can just blink the HoTU out of existence or Thanos with HoTU out of existence.
TR wins
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@lan_fan: @cognitive: @brucerogers:
Thanos with HoTU was nigh-omnipotent, he was able to absorb the entire of the Marvel multiverse within him, but not anything beyond that. But, he did not achieve much in sense of the omniscience, as he was told by Adam Warlock how he was tricked and then he had to reconstruct the whole multiverse.
Now Thoans' biggest achieve in this was absorbing the multiverse with LT inside, who is said to be second only to TOAA, and HoTU is said to be a fraction of TOAA's power. But we have seen previously how LT has been overpowered by other cosmic beings, such as PR Beyonder(LT shitted his pants when he saw beyonder) and protege, and was superseded by Scathan the Approver, who was easily able to contain the protege.
OTOH, the monitors in DC are considered to be representations of the writers. And they exist beyond the creation. And Mandrakk(dark monitor) even kept the whole of creation in a jar and Mandrakk was beaten by TR.
Whereas Thanos(HoTU) is just nigh-omnipotent, Thought Robot otoh is omnipotent and omniscient. Because, he can feel the narrative progressing around him(omniscient) and can manipulate it(omnipotent). He is not of matter, he is purely an abstract being, a Though, not even energy. He can manipulate the story of the comics, and not just the creation, whereas Thanos(HoTU) can only manipulate the creation. And TR is aware of the readers and can hear their breathing and them grabbing the pages of the comic.
So, TR can just blink the HoTU out of existence or Thanos with HoTU out of existence.
TR wins
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Also, I will say that TR is to dc multiverse, what PR Beyonder is to Marvel multiverse. They are just beyond those puny creations, and immensely more powerful, than the whole of it.
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Also, I will say that TR is to dc multiverse, what PR Beyonder is to Marvel multiverse. They are just beyond those puny creations, and immensely more powerful, than the whole of it.
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Also, I will say that TR is to dc multiverse, what PR Beyonder is to Marvel multiverse. They are just beyond those puny creations, and immensely more powerful, than the whole of it.
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Also, I will say that TR is to dc multiverse, what PR Beyonder is to Marvel multiverse. They are just beyond those puny creations, and immensely more powerful, than the whole of it.
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Thanos takes it with low difficulty.
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Thanos takes it with low difficulty.
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Thanos takes it with low difficulty.
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Thanos takes it with low difficulty.
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HOTU > Thought Robot
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HOTU > Thought Robot
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HOTU > Thought Robot
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@mega6382: He absorbed the main Marvel Universe, he didn't absorb the Marvel Multiverse and he was fully omniscient because he figured it out way before Adam told him.
He absorbed the Marvel Universe..and LT was beaten by characters that would blink TR out of existence so I don't get why you would lowball LT like that.
We're not debating hearsay, we're debating actual on-panel feats and The Monitors including Mandrakk get stomped by Thanos with HoTU.
Yeah nah, Thanos became omnipotent with HoTU, he says so himself and being aware of the readers isn't a combat feat, you're using so much speculation. He has no feats to suggest he can damage Thanos and Thanos has the feats to actually blink him out of existence.
No he can't, just stop, take a breather, read your own post again, and never, ever, call TR Omnipotent or Omniscient.
Thanos blinks with absolute ease.
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@mega6382: He absorbed the main Marvel Universe, he didn't absorb the Marvel Multiverse and he was fully omniscient because he figured it out way before Adam told him.
He absorbed the Marvel Universe..and LT was beaten by characters that would blink TR out of existence so I don't get why you would lowball LT like that.
We're not debating hearsay, we're debating actual on-panel feats and The Monitors including Mandrakk get stomped by Thanos with HoTU.
Yeah nah, Thanos became omnipotent with HoTU, he says so himself and being aware of the readers isn't a combat feat, you're using so much speculation. He has no feats to suggest he can damage Thanos and Thanos has the feats to actually blink him out of existence.
No he can't, just stop, take a breather, read your own post again, and never, ever, call TR Omnipotent or Omniscient.
Thanos blinks with absolute ease.
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@mega6382: He absorbed the main Marvel Universe, he didn't absorb the Marvel Multiverse and he was fully omniscient because he figured it out way before Adam told him.
He absorbed the Marvel Universe..and LT was beaten by characters that would blink TR out of existence so I don't get why you would lowball LT like that.
We're not debating hearsay, we're debating actual on-panel feats and The Monitors including Mandrakk get stomped by Thanos with HoTU.
Yeah nah, Thanos became omnipotent with HoTU, he says so himself and being aware of the readers isn't a combat feat, you're using so much speculation. He has no feats to suggest he can damage Thanos and Thanos has the feats to actually blink him out of existence.
No he can't, just stop, take a breather, read your own post again, and never, ever, call TR Omnipotent or Omniscient.
Thanos blinks with absolute ease.
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@mega6382: He absorbed the main Marvel Universe, he didn't absorb the Marvel Multiverse and he was fully omniscient because he figured it out way before Adam told him.
He absorbed the Marvel Universe..and LT was beaten by characters that would blink TR out of existence so I don't get why you would lowball LT like that.
We're not debating hearsay, we're debating actual on-panel feats and The Monitors including Mandrakk get stomped by Thanos with HoTU.
Yeah nah, Thanos became omnipotent with HoTU, he says so himself and being aware of the readers isn't a combat feat, you're using so much speculation. He has no feats to suggest he can damage Thanos and Thanos has the feats to actually blink him out of existence.
No he can't, just stop, take a breather, read your own post again, and never, ever, call TR Omnipotent or Omniscient.
Thanos blinks with absolute ease.
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Monitors see the 52 Universes rotating through the Bleed as "Germs" and infinitesimal objects to the Monitors are described as being large inside our Universe, indicating through size scaling that Monitors are infinitely larger than 52 Universes during the Final Crisis one shot, so they may be Multiversalx52 through highballing.
The problem with Monitors is the constant discontinuous back and forth retcons of the DC Multiverse configuration. Actually, damn near every Cosmic in DC suffers from this issue that makes them susceptible to Marvel sider semantical nitpicks, except for Mxyzptlk and Anti-Monitor of course to name a few.
DC's Multiverse is retconned back from Multi-Universe to infinite again, but the configuration of Hypertime in relation to the rest of shown DC Multiverse Map is unknown for example. Most of what we know there is based on Flash's assessment.
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Monitors see the 52 Universes rotating through the Bleed as "Germs" and infinitesimal objects to the Monitors are described as being large inside our Universe, indicating through size scaling that Monitors are infinitely larger than 52 Universes during the Final Crisis one shot, so they may be Multiversalx52 through highballing.
The problem with Monitors is the constant discontinuous back and forth retcons of the DC Multiverse configuration. Actually, damn near every Cosmic in DC suffers from this issue that makes them susceptible to Marvel sider semantical nitpicks, except for Mxyzptlk and Anti-Monitor of course to name a few.
DC's Multiverse is retconned back from Multi-Universe to infinite again, but the configuration of Hypertime in relation to the rest of shown DC Multiverse Map is unknown for example. Most of what we know there is based on Flash's assessment.
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Monitors see the 52 Universes rotating through the Bleed as "Germs" and infinitesimal objects to the Monitors are described as being large inside our Universe, indicating through size scaling that Monitors are infinitely larger than 52 Universes during the Final Crisis one shot, so they may be Multiversalx52 through highballing.
The problem with Monitors is the constant discontinuous back and forth retcons of the DC Multiverse configuration. Actually, damn near every Cosmic in DC suffers from this issue that makes them susceptible to Marvel sider semantical nitpicks, except for Mxyzptlk and Anti-Monitor of course to name a few.
DC's Multiverse is retconned back from Multi-Universe to infinite again, but the configuration of Hypertime in relation to the rest of shown DC Multiverse Map is unknown for example. Most of what we know there is based on Flash's assessment.
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Monitors see the 52 Universes rotating through the Bleed as "Germs" and infinitesimal objects to the Monitors are described as being large inside our Universe, indicating through size scaling that Monitors are infinitely larger than 52 Universes during the Final Crisis one shot, so they may be Multiversalx52 through highballing.
The problem with Monitors is the constant discontinuous back and forth retcons of the DC Multiverse configuration. Actually, damn near every Cosmic in DC suffers from this issue that makes them susceptible to Marvel sider semantical nitpicks, except for Mxyzptlk and Anti-Monitor of course to name a few.
DC's Multiverse is retconned back from Multi-Universe to infinite again, but the configuration of Hypertime in relation to the rest of shown DC Multiverse Map is unknown for example. Most of what we know there is based on Flash's assessment.
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@rampagethefirst: You still ignored the fact that, TR can change the story itself. Also, like it's been said before it will most likely be a stalemate, and if anyone would win it will be TR.
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@rampagethefirst: You still ignored the fact that, TR can change the story itself. Also, like it's been said before it will most likely be a stalemate, and if anyone would win it will be TR.
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@rampagethefirst: You still ignored the fact that, TR can change the story itself. Also, like it's been said before it will most likely be a stalemate, and if anyone would win it will be TR.
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@rampagethefirst: You still ignored the fact that, TR can change the story itself. Also, like it's been said before it will most likely be a stalemate, and if anyone would win it will be TR.
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@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
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@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
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@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
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@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
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@rampagethefirst:Also, as you stated, that Thanos with HoTU only absorbed the main universe and not the whole multiverse, that just means he is even less powerful than I stated. So, HoTU is universe level, or multiverse level at best. Whereas Mandrakk is so far beyond multiverse level, he literally kept the whole multiverse in a JAR. and TR defeated him.
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@rampagethefirst:Also, as you stated, that Thanos with HoTU only absorbed the main universe and not the whole multiverse, that just means he is even less powerful than I stated. So, HoTU is universe level, or multiverse level at best. Whereas Mandrakk is so far beyond multiverse level, he literally kept the whole multiverse in a JAR. and TR defeated him.
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@rampagethefirst:Also, as you stated, that Thanos with HoTU only absorbed the main universe and not the whole multiverse, that just means he is even less powerful than I stated. So, HoTU is universe level, or multiverse level at best. Whereas Mandrakk is so far beyond multiverse level, he literally kept the whole multiverse in a JAR. and TR defeated him.
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@rampagethefirst:Also, as you stated, that Thanos with HoTU only absorbed the main universe and not the whole multiverse, that just means he is even less powerful than I stated. So, HoTU is universe level, or multiverse level at best. Whereas Mandrakk is so far beyond multiverse level, he literally kept the whole multiverse in a JAR. and TR defeated him.
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@mega6382: If you're going to ignore my questions, don't bother replying and Thanos is easily Multiversal since he defeated Multiversal beings with ease. Mandrakk has no feats to suggest he's beyond Multiversal and TR defeated him by pushing him in the void, even then, he was still alive.
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@mega6382: If you're going to ignore my questions, don't bother replying and Thanos is easily Multiversal since he defeated Multiversal beings with ease. Mandrakk has no feats to suggest he's beyond Multiversal and TR defeated him by pushing him in the void, even then, he was still alive.
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@mega6382: If you're going to ignore my questions, don't bother replying and Thanos is easily Multiversal since he defeated Multiversal beings with ease. Mandrakk has no feats to suggest he's beyond Multiversal and TR defeated him by pushing him in the void, even then, he was still alive.
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@mega6382: If you're going to ignore my questions, don't bother replying and Thanos is easily Multiversal since he defeated Multiversal beings with ease. Mandrakk has no feats to suggest he's beyond Multiversal and TR defeated him by pushing him in the void, even then, he was still alive.
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@rampagethefirst said:
@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
Sorry, I missed that message of yours. Anyway, as it is said that Mandrakk can evolve to overcome the story he is in, and Thought Robot was constantly changing to keep up with Mandrakk. Also, Superman's and Ultraman's(anti matter) stories combined to form RT(and superman was the main driving force of the RT), and this was because Superman's story is the greatest(as he is the first superhero).
So, yes, when RT was evolving, he was changing the story, or at least the narrative of the story.
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@rampagethefirst said:
@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
Sorry, I missed that message of yours. Anyway, as it is said that Mandrakk can evolve to overcome the story he is in, and Thought Robot was constantly changing to keep up with Mandrakk. Also, Superman's and Ultraman's(anti matter) stories combined to form RT(and superman was the main driving force of the RT), and this was because Superman's story is the greatest(as he is the first superhero).
So, yes, when RT was evolving, he was changing the story, or at least the narrative of the story.
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@rampagethefirst said:
@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
Sorry, I missed that message of yours. Anyway, as it is said that Mandrakk can evolve to overcome the story he is in, and Thought Robot was constantly changing to keep up with Mandrakk. Also, Superman's and Ultraman's(anti matter) stories combined to form RT(and superman was the main driving force of the RT), and this was because Superman's story is the greatest(as he is the first superhero).
So, yes, when RT was evolving, he was changing the story, or at least the narrative of the story.
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@rampagethefirst said:
@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
Sorry, I missed that message of yours. Anyway, as it is said that Mandrakk can evolve to overcome the story he is in, and Thought Robot was constantly changing to keep up with Mandrakk. Also, Superman's and Ultraman's(anti matter) stories combined to form RT(and superman was the main driving force of the RT), and this was because Superman's story is the greatest(as he is the first superhero).
So, yes, when RT was evolving, he was changing the story, or at least the narrative of the story.
@rampagethefirst said:
@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
@rampagethefirst said:
@mega6382: When did he change the story in Final Crisis?
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@mega6382: Thanos isn't fighting TR in a comic, there is no plot. On comicvine, you use feats that happened on panel to justify who wins and right now, you're not using any, or better yet, TR doesn't have any good feats.
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@mega6382: Thanos isn't fighting TR in a comic, there is no plot. On comicvine, you use feats that happened on panel to justify who wins and right now, you're not using any, or better yet, TR doesn't have any good feats.
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@mega6382: Thanos isn't fighting TR in a comic, there is no plot. On comicvine, you use feats that happened on panel to justify who wins and right now, you're not using any, or better yet, TR doesn't have any good feats.
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@mega6382: Thanos isn't fighting TR in a comic, there is no plot. On comicvine, you use feats that happened on panel to justify who wins and right now, you're not using any, or better yet, TR doesn't have any good feats.
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