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During A New Hope, the Necron World Engine appears in the Star Wars galaxy and starts ruthlessly attacking the Empire. Can it be stopped?
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@thegoddamnmasterchief:
EU or movie?
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@cjdavis103: Shouldn't matter. The EU is part of Star Wars canon and therefore EU material should be recognized by default unless specifically specified by the OP.
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
If EU then I am backing the empire
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Gonna go with Necron World Engine. Just read the wiki article for that thing and it sounds tuff. I am not familiar with the EU Star Wars though. Somebody prove me wrong.
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Can somebody tell me anything about the Necron World Engine?
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
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@cjdavis103: Default canon should be the EU, considering how this is called Comic Vine.
Disney owning SW now means nothing because they haven't changed the canon policy. Sources like The Essential Reader's Companion still tell us that the EU is canon all the same - with the only problem being a direct intervention on "Lucas's parallel world", which is the movies.
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In time SW should take this encounter but not before the World Engine cuts a bloody line through the Galaxy with millions dead.
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@jedixman said:
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
cough cough FALSE cough...
The Dark Horse and Dynamite comics are just as much Canon with the movies as the book novels are.
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@shootingnova:
I understand that makes sense and I agree with you but I still stand by that more people know the movies then the books so that is why we need clarification when this pops up especially with new users
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
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1% Battle discussion.
99% Default canon discussion.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
Fair enough. I admit that I know nothing about the Terminator comics.
Since this is a comic book site, it only makes sense to incorporate the comics. Though I believe Doctor Who and Star Trek comics are explicitly non-canon unless otherwise stated.
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@vmole said:
Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
This is why I fell the NWE would win. As far as I know the GE does not have nearly the same fire power as the Imperium. And even if they could get troops on the surface (which I doubt they could) there would be tens of thousands of Necron defenders to deal with.
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@_gaff_ said:
1% Battle discussion.
99% Default canon discussion.
That's because I'm bored. Nobody is explaining what the NWE is.
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@jedixman: I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
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@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
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@vmole: actually it was 15 chapters of Marines. The problem the SW-verse will have is damaging the engine due to its void shields. Void shields aren't force fields they are portals to the warp so any shot fired at the engine is BFR'd to another dimension. This is a very tough obstacle to overcome.
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@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
Yeah.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
The mobile Tomb World also has a apparent weakness to things that ram it lol.
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We have a good picture of a World Engine from the latest Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 trailer.

It probably would destroy a huge part of the Galactic Empire
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During A New Hope, the Necron World Engine appears in the Star Wars galaxy and starts ruthlessly attacking the Empire. Can it be stopped?
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EU or movie?
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@cjdavis103: Shouldn't matter. The EU is part of Star Wars canon and therefore EU material should be recognized by default unless specifically specified by the OP.
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
If EU then I am backing the empire
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Gonna go with Necron World Engine. Just read the wiki article for that thing and it sounds tuff. I am not familiar with the EU Star Wars though. Somebody prove me wrong.
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Can somebody tell me anything about the Necron World Engine?
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
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@cjdavis103: Default canon should be the EU, considering how this is called Comic Vine.
Disney owning SW now means nothing because they haven't changed the canon policy. Sources like The Essential Reader's Companion still tell us that the EU is canon all the same - with the only problem being a direct intervention on "Lucas's parallel world", which is the movies.
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In time SW should take this encounter but not before the World Engine cuts a bloody line through the Galaxy with millions dead.
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@jedixman said:
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
cough cough FALSE cough...
The Dark Horse and Dynamite comics are just as much Canon with the movies as the book novels are.
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@shootingnova:
I understand that makes sense and I agree with you but I still stand by that more people know the movies then the books so that is why we need clarification when this pops up especially with new users
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Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
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1% Battle discussion.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
Fair enough. I admit that I know nothing about the Terminator comics.
Since this is a comic book site, it only makes sense to incorporate the comics. Though I believe Doctor Who and Star Trek comics are explicitly non-canon unless otherwise stated.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
This is why I fell the NWE would win. As far as I know the GE does not have nearly the same fire power as the Imperium. And even if they could get troops on the surface (which I doubt they could) there would be tens of thousands of Necron defenders to deal with.
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That's because I'm bored. Nobody is explaining what the NWE is.
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@jedixman: I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
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@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
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@vmole: actually it was 15 chapters of Marines. The problem the SW-verse will have is damaging the engine due to its void shields. Void shields aren't force fields they are portals to the warp so any shot fired at the engine is BFR'd to another dimension. This is a very tough obstacle to overcome.
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@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
Yeah.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
The mobile Tomb World also has a apparent weakness to things that ram it lol.
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We have a good picture of a World Engine from the latest Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 trailer.

It probably would destroy a huge part of the Galactic Empire
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During A New Hope, the Necron World Engine appears in the Star Wars galaxy and starts ruthlessly attacking the Empire. Can it be stopped?
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@thegoddamnmasterchief:
EU or movie?
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@cjdavis103: Shouldn't matter. The EU is part of Star Wars canon and therefore EU material should be recognized by default unless specifically specified by the OP.
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
If EU then I am backing the empire
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Gonna go with Necron World Engine. Just read the wiki article for that thing and it sounds tuff. I am not familiar with the EU Star Wars though. Somebody prove me wrong.
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Can somebody tell me anything about the Necron World Engine?
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@cjdavis103 said:
@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
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@cjdavis103: Default canon should be the EU, considering how this is called Comic Vine.
Disney owning SW now means nothing because they haven't changed the canon policy. Sources like The Essential Reader's Companion still tell us that the EU is canon all the same - with the only problem being a direct intervention on "Lucas's parallel world", which is the movies.
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In time SW should take this encounter but not before the World Engine cuts a bloody line through the Galaxy with millions dead.
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@jedixman said:
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
cough cough FALSE cough...
The Dark Horse and Dynamite comics are just as much Canon with the movies as the book novels are.
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@shootingnova:
I understand that makes sense and I agree with you but I still stand by that more people know the movies then the books so that is why we need clarification when this pops up especially with new users
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
Fair enough. I admit that I know nothing about the Terminator comics.
Since this is a comic book site, it only makes sense to incorporate the comics. Though I believe Doctor Who and Star Trek comics are explicitly non-canon unless otherwise stated.
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@vmole said:
Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
This is why I fell the NWE would win. As far as I know the GE does not have nearly the same fire power as the Imperium. And even if they could get troops on the surface (which I doubt they could) there would be tens of thousands of Necron defenders to deal with.
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@_gaff_ said:
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That's because I'm bored. Nobody is explaining what the NWE is.
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@jedixman: I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
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@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
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@vmole: actually it was 15 chapters of Marines. The problem the SW-verse will have is damaging the engine due to its void shields. Void shields aren't force fields they are portals to the warp so any shot fired at the engine is BFR'd to another dimension. This is a very tough obstacle to overcome.
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@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
Yeah.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
The mobile Tomb World also has a apparent weakness to things that ram it lol.
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We have a good picture of a World Engine from the latest Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 trailer.

It probably would destroy a huge part of the Galactic Empire
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During A New Hope, the Necron World Engine appears in the Star Wars galaxy and starts ruthlessly attacking the Empire. Can it be stopped?
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@cjdavis103: Shouldn't matter. The EU is part of Star Wars canon and therefore EU material should be recognized by default unless specifically specified by the OP.
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
If EU then I am backing the empire
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Gonna go with Necron World Engine. Just read the wiki article for that thing and it sounds tuff. I am not familiar with the EU Star Wars though. Somebody prove me wrong.
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Can somebody tell me anything about the Necron World Engine?
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@cjdavis103 said:
@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
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@cjdavis103: Default canon should be the EU, considering how this is called Comic Vine.
Disney owning SW now means nothing because they haven't changed the canon policy. Sources like The Essential Reader's Companion still tell us that the EU is canon all the same - with the only problem being a direct intervention on "Lucas's parallel world", which is the movies.
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In time SW should take this encounter but not before the World Engine cuts a bloody line through the Galaxy with millions dead.
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@jedixman said:
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
cough cough FALSE cough...
The Dark Horse and Dynamite comics are just as much Canon with the movies as the book novels are.
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@shootingnova:
I understand that makes sense and I agree with you but I still stand by that more people know the movies then the books so that is why we need clarification when this pops up especially with new users
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
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1% Battle discussion.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
Fair enough. I admit that I know nothing about the Terminator comics.
Since this is a comic book site, it only makes sense to incorporate the comics. Though I believe Doctor Who and Star Trek comics are explicitly non-canon unless otherwise stated.
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@vmole said:
Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
This is why I fell the NWE would win. As far as I know the GE does not have nearly the same fire power as the Imperium. And even if they could get troops on the surface (which I doubt they could) there would be tens of thousands of Necron defenders to deal with.
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@_gaff_ said:
1% Battle discussion.
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That's because I'm bored. Nobody is explaining what the NWE is.
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@jedixman: I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
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@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
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@vmole: actually it was 15 chapters of Marines. The problem the SW-verse will have is damaging the engine due to its void shields. Void shields aren't force fields they are portals to the warp so any shot fired at the engine is BFR'd to another dimension. This is a very tough obstacle to overcome.
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@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
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@strider92 said:
@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
Yeah.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
The mobile Tomb World also has a apparent weakness to things that ram it lol.
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We have a good picture of a World Engine from the latest Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 trailer.

It probably would destroy a huge part of the Galactic Empire
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@cjdavis103: Shouldn't matter. The EU is part of Star Wars canon and therefore EU material should be recognized by default unless specifically specified by the OP.
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
If EU then I am backing the empire
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Gonna go with Necron World Engine. Just read the wiki article for that thing and it sounds tuff. I am not familiar with the EU Star Wars though. Somebody prove me wrong.
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Can somebody tell me anything about the Necron World Engine?
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
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@cjdavis103: Default canon should be the EU, considering how this is called Comic Vine.
Disney owning SW now means nothing because they haven't changed the canon policy. Sources like The Essential Reader's Companion still tell us that the EU is canon all the same - with the only problem being a direct intervention on "Lucas's parallel world", which is the movies.
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In time SW should take this encounter but not before the World Engine cuts a bloody line through the Galaxy with millions dead.
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@jedixman said:
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
cough cough FALSE cough...
The Dark Horse and Dynamite comics are just as much Canon with the movies as the book novels are.
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@shootingnova:
I understand that makes sense and I agree with you but I still stand by that more people know the movies then the books so that is why we need clarification when this pops up especially with new users
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
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1% Battle discussion.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
Fair enough. I admit that I know nothing about the Terminator comics.
Since this is a comic book site, it only makes sense to incorporate the comics. Though I believe Doctor Who and Star Trek comics are explicitly non-canon unless otherwise stated.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
This is why I fell the NWE would win. As far as I know the GE does not have nearly the same fire power as the Imperium. And even if they could get troops on the surface (which I doubt they could) there would be tens of thousands of Necron defenders to deal with.
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That's because I'm bored. Nobody is explaining what the NWE is.
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@jedixman: I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
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@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
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@vmole: actually it was 15 chapters of Marines. The problem the SW-verse will have is damaging the engine due to its void shields. Void shields aren't force fields they are portals to the warp so any shot fired at the engine is BFR'd to another dimension. This is a very tough obstacle to overcome.
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@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
Yeah.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
The mobile Tomb World also has a apparent weakness to things that ram it lol.
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We have a good picture of a World Engine from the latest Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 trailer.

It probably would destroy a huge part of the Galactic Empire
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During A New Hope, the Necron World Engine appears in the Star Wars galaxy and starts ruthlessly attacking the Empire. Can it be stopped?
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EU or movie?
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@cjdavis103: Shouldn't matter. The EU is part of Star Wars canon and therefore EU material should be recognized by default unless specifically specified by the OP.
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
If EU then I am backing the empire
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Gonna go with Necron World Engine. Just read the wiki article for that thing and it sounds tuff. I am not familiar with the EU Star Wars though. Somebody prove me wrong.
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Can somebody tell me anything about the Necron World Engine?
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@cjdavis103 said:
@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
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@cjdavis103: Default canon should be the EU, considering how this is called Comic Vine.
Disney owning SW now means nothing because they haven't changed the canon policy. Sources like The Essential Reader's Companion still tell us that the EU is canon all the same - with the only problem being a direct intervention on "Lucas's parallel world", which is the movies.
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In time SW should take this encounter but not before the World Engine cuts a bloody line through the Galaxy with millions dead.
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@jedixman said:
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
cough cough FALSE cough...
The Dark Horse and Dynamite comics are just as much Canon with the movies as the book novels are.
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@shootingnova:
I understand that makes sense and I agree with you but I still stand by that more people know the movies then the books so that is why we need clarification when this pops up especially with new users
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
Fair enough. I admit that I know nothing about the Terminator comics.
Since this is a comic book site, it only makes sense to incorporate the comics. Though I believe Doctor Who and Star Trek comics are explicitly non-canon unless otherwise stated.
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@vmole said:
Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
This is why I fell the NWE would win. As far as I know the GE does not have nearly the same fire power as the Imperium. And even if they could get troops on the surface (which I doubt they could) there would be tens of thousands of Necron defenders to deal with.
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@_gaff_ said:
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That's because I'm bored. Nobody is explaining what the NWE is.
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@jedixman: I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
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@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
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Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
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@vmole: actually it was 15 chapters of Marines. The problem the SW-verse will have is damaging the engine due to its void shields. Void shields aren't force fields they are portals to the warp so any shot fired at the engine is BFR'd to another dimension. This is a very tough obstacle to overcome.
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@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
Yeah.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
The mobile Tomb World also has a apparent weakness to things that ram it lol.
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We have a good picture of a World Engine from the latest Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 trailer.

It probably would destroy a huge part of the Galactic Empire
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@cjdavis103: Shouldn't matter. The EU is part of Star Wars canon and therefore EU material should be recognized by default unless specifically specified by the OP.
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
If EU then I am backing the empire
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Gonna go with Necron World Engine. Just read the wiki article for that thing and it sounds tuff. I am not familiar with the EU Star Wars though. Somebody prove me wrong.
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Can somebody tell me anything about the Necron World Engine?
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
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@cjdavis103: Default canon should be the EU, considering how this is called Comic Vine.
Disney owning SW now means nothing because they haven't changed the canon policy. Sources like The Essential Reader's Companion still tell us that the EU is canon all the same - with the only problem being a direct intervention on "Lucas's parallel world", which is the movies.
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In time SW should take this encounter but not before the World Engine cuts a bloody line through the Galaxy with millions dead.
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@jedixman said:
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
cough cough FALSE cough...
The Dark Horse and Dynamite comics are just as much Canon with the movies as the book novels are.
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@shootingnova:
I understand that makes sense and I agree with you but I still stand by that more people know the movies then the books so that is why we need clarification when this pops up especially with new users
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
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1% Battle discussion.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
Fair enough. I admit that I know nothing about the Terminator comics.
Since this is a comic book site, it only makes sense to incorporate the comics. Though I believe Doctor Who and Star Trek comics are explicitly non-canon unless otherwise stated.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
This is why I fell the NWE would win. As far as I know the GE does not have nearly the same fire power as the Imperium. And even if they could get troops on the surface (which I doubt they could) there would be tens of thousands of Necron defenders to deal with.
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@_gaff_ said:
1% Battle discussion.
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That's because I'm bored. Nobody is explaining what the NWE is.
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@jedixman: I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
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@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
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@vmole: actually it was 15 chapters of Marines. The problem the SW-verse will have is damaging the engine due to its void shields. Void shields aren't force fields they are portals to the warp so any shot fired at the engine is BFR'd to another dimension. This is a very tough obstacle to overcome.
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@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
Yeah.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
The mobile Tomb World also has a apparent weakness to things that ram it lol.
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We have a good picture of a World Engine from the latest Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 trailer.

It probably would destroy a huge part of the Galactic Empire
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@cjdavis103: Shouldn't matter. The EU is part of Star Wars canon and therefore EU material should be recognized by default unless specifically specified by the OP.
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@cjdavis103: Shouldn't matter. The EU is part of Star Wars canon and therefore EU material should be recognized by default unless specifically specified by the OP.
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@cjdavis103: Shouldn't matter. The EU is part of Star Wars canon and therefore EU material should be recognized by default unless specifically specified by the OP.
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@cjdavis103: Shouldn't matter. The EU is part of Star Wars canon and therefore EU material should be recognized by default unless specifically specified by the OP.
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
If EU then I am backing the empire
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
If EU then I am backing the empire
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
If EU then I am backing the empire
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@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
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Gonna go with Necron World Engine. Just read the wiki article for that thing and it sounds tuff. I am not familiar with the EU Star Wars though. Somebody prove me wrong.
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Gonna go with Necron World Engine. Just read the wiki article for that thing and it sounds tuff. I am not familiar with the EU Star Wars though. Somebody prove me wrong.
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Gonna go with Necron World Engine. Just read the wiki article for that thing and it sounds tuff. I am not familiar with the EU Star Wars though. Somebody prove me wrong.
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Gonna go with Necron World Engine. Just read the wiki article for that thing and it sounds tuff. I am not familiar with the EU Star Wars though. Somebody prove me wrong.
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Can somebody tell me anything about the Necron World Engine?
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Can somebody tell me anything about the Necron World Engine?
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Can somebody tell me anything about the Necron World Engine?
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Can somebody tell me anything about the Necron World Engine?
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@cjdavis103 said:
@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
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@cjdavis103 said:
@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
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@cjdavis103 said:
@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
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@cjdavis103 said:
@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
@cjdavis103 said:
@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
@cjdavis103 said:
@shroudofsorrow: I understand that but the majority of people are more familiar with the movie versions then the EU which versions are "Defualt cannon" is debatable ( especially considering the property has changed hands to Disney now) so I am just clearing it up
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@cjdavis103: Default canon should be the EU, considering how this is called Comic Vine.
Disney owning SW now means nothing because they haven't changed the canon policy. Sources like The Essential Reader's Companion still tell us that the EU is canon all the same - with the only problem being a direct intervention on "Lucas's parallel world", which is the movies.
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@cjdavis103: Default canon should be the EU, considering how this is called Comic Vine.
Disney owning SW now means nothing because they haven't changed the canon policy. Sources like The Essential Reader's Companion still tell us that the EU is canon all the same - with the only problem being a direct intervention on "Lucas's parallel world", which is the movies.
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@cjdavis103: Default canon should be the EU, considering how this is called Comic Vine.
Disney owning SW now means nothing because they haven't changed the canon policy. Sources like The Essential Reader's Companion still tell us that the EU is canon all the same - with the only problem being a direct intervention on "Lucas's parallel world", which is the movies.
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@cjdavis103: Default canon should be the EU, considering how this is called Comic Vine.
Disney owning SW now means nothing because they haven't changed the canon policy. Sources like The Essential Reader's Companion still tell us that the EU is canon all the same - with the only problem being a direct intervention on "Lucas's parallel world", which is the movies.
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In time SW should take this encounter but not before the World Engine cuts a bloody line through the Galaxy with millions dead.
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In time SW should take this encounter but not before the World Engine cuts a bloody line through the Galaxy with millions dead.
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In time SW should take this encounter but not before the World Engine cuts a bloody line through the Galaxy with millions dead.
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In time SW should take this encounter but not before the World Engine cuts a bloody line through the Galaxy with millions dead.
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@jedixman said:
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
cough cough FALSE cough...
The Dark Horse and Dynamite comics are just as much Canon with the movies as the book novels are.
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@jedixman said:
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
cough cough FALSE cough...
The Dark Horse and Dynamite comics are just as much Canon with the movies as the book novels are.
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@jedixman said:
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
cough cough FALSE cough...
The Dark Horse and Dynamite comics are just as much Canon with the movies as the book novels are.
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@jedixman said:
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
cough cough FALSE cough...
The Dark Horse and Dynamite comics are just as much Canon with the movies as the book novels are.
@jedixman said:
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
@jedixman said:
Considering this is a comic book website, it only makes sense that we assume it is the EU. This isn't like "is it the Terminator movies or the comics;" for Star Wars, it's much bigger.
EU should always be default.
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@shootingnova:
I understand that makes sense and I agree with you but I still stand by that more people know the movies then the books so that is why we need clarification when this pops up especially with new users
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@shootingnova:
I understand that makes sense and I agree with you but I still stand by that more people know the movies then the books so that is why we need clarification when this pops up especially with new users
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@shootingnova:
I understand that makes sense and I agree with you but I still stand by that more people know the movies then the books so that is why we need clarification when this pops up especially with new users
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@shootingnova:
I understand that makes sense and I agree with you but I still stand by that more people know the movies then the books so that is why we need clarification when this pops up especially with new users
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Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
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@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
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1% Battle discussion.
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1% Battle discussion.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
Fair enough. I admit that I know nothing about the Terminator comics.
Since this is a comic book site, it only makes sense to incorporate the comics. Though I believe Doctor Who and Star Trek comics are explicitly non-canon unless otherwise stated.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
Fair enough. I admit that I know nothing about the Terminator comics.
Since this is a comic book site, it only makes sense to incorporate the comics. Though I believe Doctor Who and Star Trek comics are explicitly non-canon unless otherwise stated.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
Fair enough. I admit that I know nothing about the Terminator comics.
Since this is a comic book site, it only makes sense to incorporate the comics. Though I believe Doctor Who and Star Trek comics are explicitly non-canon unless otherwise stated.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
Fair enough. I admit that I know nothing about the Terminator comics.
Since this is a comic book site, it only makes sense to incorporate the comics. Though I believe Doctor Who and Star Trek comics are explicitly non-canon unless otherwise stated.
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
The comics do not? Terminator Salvation was more like the Comics than anything we seen in Terminator or Terminator 2 future cut scenes.
Im just saying, Star Wars stated by George Lucas himself was the movies are the the initial Canon first and foremost. In fact I believe he said the Movies were a separate universe all together at one time.
Regardless, I am in the camp of everything being EU. Regardless.
Aliens and predator, so vast a universe in books, movies, and comics it should be counted as EU.
Terminator has so many comics modeled after the movies, should be EU regardless.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics are direct quoted as direct canon by Joss Whedon for the TV Shows. Yet certain people on this site like to argue they are different canon :/ Its all EU.
Same with Star Wars, it should auto be EU regardless, Im not arguing that, just the statement that things like Terminator or others that have heavy influences from Comics and Book Novels should not be considered EU version automatically when it all follows the Canon of the movies.
A Good example of non EU would be like Street Fighter. The Comics are a totally different Canon to the Games. That should not be EU at all for that reason.
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
@cadencev2:
Not nearly to the same extent or depth. The comics and novels played roles in shaping the movies themselves.
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Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
This is why I fell the NWE would win. As far as I know the GE does not have nearly the same fire power as the Imperium. And even if they could get troops on the surface (which I doubt they could) there would be tens of thousands of Necron defenders to deal with.
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@vmole said:
Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
This is why I fell the NWE would win. As far as I know the GE does not have nearly the same fire power as the Imperium. And even if they could get troops on the surface (which I doubt they could) there would be tens of thousands of Necron defenders to deal with.
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@vmole said:
Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
This is why I fell the NWE would win. As far as I know the GE does not have nearly the same fire power as the Imperium. And even if they could get troops on the surface (which I doubt they could) there would be tens of thousands of Necron defenders to deal with.
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@vmole said:
Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
This is why I fell the NWE would win. As far as I know the GE does not have nearly the same fire power as the Imperium. And even if they could get troops on the surface (which I doubt they could) there would be tens of thousands of Necron defenders to deal with.
@vmole said:
Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
@vmole said:
Are there any other particularly outstanding fleets for the World Engine? All I know is that it withstood the combined firepower of an entire Imperial sector fleet with roughly 10+ Space Marine chapters and their starships for days on end of relentless pounding with their strongest weapons with absolutely zero damage inflicted upon it.
As far as I know, anything short of a Death Star isn't even going to be an issue considering the stupid amount of damage the thing managed to resist from the strongest vessels the Imperium had available, and even then I believe the Death Star's contribution would be debatable considering it took repeated strikes from planet-killing cyclonic torpedoes after its shields were finally down to put it out of commission.
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@_gaff_ said:
1% Battle discussion.
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That's because I'm bored. Nobody is explaining what the NWE is.
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@_gaff_ said:
1% Battle discussion.
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That's because I'm bored. Nobody is explaining what the NWE is.
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@_gaff_ said:
1% Battle discussion.
99% Default canon discussion.
That's because I'm bored. Nobody is explaining what the NWE is.
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@_gaff_ said:
1% Battle discussion.
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That's because I'm bored. Nobody is explaining what the NWE is.
@_gaff_ said:
1% Battle discussion.
99% Default canon discussion.
@_gaff_ said:
1% Battle discussion.
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@jedixman: I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
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@jedixman: I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
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@jedixman: I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
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@jedixman: I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
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@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
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@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
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@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
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@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
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I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
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@vmole: actually it was 15 chapters of Marines. The problem the SW-verse will have is damaging the engine due to its void shields. Void shields aren't force fields they are portals to the warp so any shot fired at the engine is BFR'd to another dimension. This is a very tough obstacle to overcome.
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@vmole: actually it was 15 chapters of Marines. The problem the SW-verse will have is damaging the engine due to its void shields. Void shields aren't force fields they are portals to the warp so any shot fired at the engine is BFR'd to another dimension. This is a very tough obstacle to overcome.
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@vmole: actually it was 15 chapters of Marines. The problem the SW-verse will have is damaging the engine due to its void shields. Void shields aren't force fields they are portals to the warp so any shot fired at the engine is BFR'd to another dimension. This is a very tough obstacle to overcome.
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@vmole: actually it was 15 chapters of Marines. The problem the SW-verse will have is damaging the engine due to its void shields. Void shields aren't force fields they are portals to the warp so any shot fired at the engine is BFR'd to another dimension. This is a very tough obstacle to overcome.
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@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
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@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
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@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
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@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
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I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
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@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
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@strider92 said:
@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
Yeah.
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@strider92 said:
@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
Yeah.
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@strider92 said:
@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
Yeah.
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@strider92 said:
@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
Yeah.
@strider92 said:
@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
@strider92 said:
@cadencev2: and the only reason that worked is because they had prior knowledge of the Necrons. If they didn't know how to shut down the void shields they'd have been fcked.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
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@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
The mobile Tomb World also has a apparent weakness to things that ram it lol.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
The mobile Tomb World also has a apparent weakness to things that ram it lol.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
The mobile Tomb World also has a apparent weakness to things that ram it lol.
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@jedixman said:
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
The mobile Tomb World also has a apparent weakness to things that ram it lol.
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
@jedixman said:
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
It would certainly fall to the Star Wars universe in general, but not just the Empire. The Empire is powerful, but their war machines peak at planet and solar destruction.
The Star Wars universe as a whole... then you have things like Centerpoint Station (the device supposedly used by the Celestials to form the Core Worlds), the Bedlam Spirits, etc.
@cadencev2 said:
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
You really have to be a 40k fan. The World Engine took on thousands of planet destroying ships. Thousands of them without any real damage to it. It took the ramming of a Battle barge and 300+ Space Marines (100 of them Terminator Armor equipped) to strategically attack the moon size space ship to blow up its Void Shields.
In another words it took 300+ Master Chiefs from Halo with the better gear than Master Chief has to shut down this Ship. Its also full of Necrons, each Necron is the equivalent to a T-800 Terminator like robot from the movies, with T-1000 liquid metal healing, and a molecule destroying rifle.
Its the best picture I can paint.
@jedixman said:
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
Yeah, but that's really plot-centric. It doesn't explain what's happening, or why I should care what a Terminator Squad is. I kinda just want an abridged explanation of its abilities.
@_gaff_ said:
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
@jedixman:
I hope this helps. This is as much as I know.
World Engine
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We have a good picture of a World Engine from the latest Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 trailer.

It probably would destroy a huge part of the Galactic Empire
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We have a good picture of a World Engine from the latest Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 trailer.

It probably would destroy a huge part of the Galactic Empire
#29
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We have a good picture of a World Engine from the latest Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 trailer.

It probably would destroy a huge part of the Galactic Empire
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We have a good picture of a World Engine from the latest Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 trailer.

It probably would destroy a huge part of the Galactic Empire
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