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a battle of the all powerful who will win

Q has been the Living Tribunal...and the scarecrow and the sign and the blade of grass... and this Q has been mortal and has died already

"Q has been the Living Tribunal...and the scarecrow and the sign and the blade of grass... and this Q has been mortal and has died already"

Q Continuums are like the Beyonder with rules. Maybe you can call the "Rules" Tribunal.

No, "Q" are high level reality warpers and nothing more.  LT would not bother to notice a "Q".

"No, "Q" are high level reality warpers and nothing more.  LT would not bother to notice a "Q"."

"Tevnoba said:

"No, "Q" are high level reality warpers and nothing more.  LT would not bother to notice a "Q"."

Ah Huh.... interesting. This is Q from the Star Trek series correct ?"

"King Saturn said:

"Tevnoba said:

"No, "Q" are high level reality warpers and nothing more.  LT would not bother to notice a "Q"."

Ah Huh.... interesting. This is Q from the Star Trek series correct ?"

Yes, but their claim to Omnipotence is a boost.  The "Q" can not be truly omnipotent because their powers can be stopped by each other, and even suppressed/eliminated.  To the simpletons of the Star Trek Universe they would effectively be Omnipotent, but that is only because of the limited understanding of the universe that Star Trek mortals understand."

I don't understand why these discussions of who could beat Q are still going.  This is just an exercise in futility as all the fans line up on each side.  There is no way to compare their powers, first of all, we don't know the extent of Q's powers, even though I attempted to delineate them in the Q vs Dark Phoenix thread.  And even if we did know the true extent of all the powers each side has, there would be no way to tell who would actually win, and the point would be moot anyway because reality itself would probably be destroyed before either of our contestants would be.

Also Nemesis is one of the worst Star Trek movies ever made, if you want good look at First Contact or Insurrection for TNG, or the even numbered OS movies.

Living Tribunal stomps.

Living tribunal >>>>>> Q race.

Even if the Q is multiversal, tribunal is megaversal.

Well, if it's THIS Q he probably loses...

But Q in general take out LT. It's been shown he can lose or struggle a la Beyonder, Q however have yet to lose outside of themselves harming each other so yeah and they were causing black holes, universal destruction while fighting their own war so yeah.... Q here.

its like saying that spiderman can beat LT coz he hasnt ever been truly defeated

the universal destruction and blackholes feat is pathetic compared to LT odin was able to destroy , galaxies , damage multiple universes , rip space-time apart and he did that while he was jobbing

galactus effortlessly beat a full power odin

galactus is like a meaningless speck of dimensionless dust compared to LT

the q arent even close to beyonder tier their best feats (if highballed) are universal+

while LT is like megaversal or omniversal in power

pr beyonder >>> LT

a better matchup would be

LT vs melony from star trek bet-canon she destroyed the ST multiverse whith the q continuum but then recreated everything

LT easily

agreed

Agreed, Nemesis is shit. I much prefer the TV shows or some of the older Kirk movies like Wrath of Khan or The Voyage Home than anything put on screen since, oh, the mid-1990s.

And I'm inclined to say that the Living Tribunal would stomp a Q, and probably most of them. But if all of them were working together, they might win? But if you accept Voyager as part of the larger Star Trek canon, despite how shit the Q episodes were and that they contradicted how the Q were represented on TNG (with the exception of "Death Wish"), well, then, the chances of them all working together as one cohesive unit to take down the Living Tribunal are very slim indeed. Q Civil War anyone? Ugh, another reason to stay the hell away from Voyager. But at least it's not Enterprise, or Discovery...