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Round 1: Shootout Scenario. Both start in cover.
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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@anthp2000 said:
May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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Been done and May is decisively above him
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@angeljax: I don't think it has been done, I tried to type it but got nothing.
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@tonymartial: Well it's been such a debate brought up indirectly in team battles involving the two that it seems like it was.
Honestly I don't think there's any debate to be had. May is superior pretty cut-and-dry. Ward, Bobbi and Daisy too.
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yeah look at how superior may is
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@rogueshadow spamming here.
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
Everyone knows you're an alt.
Yeah and everyone knows how you were going to vote in this thread. And everyone can see those images. So why lie to yourself? Im dead serious..,.whats the point in seeing may get dropped by 3 people and claim shes a better fighter than diggle who just literally took down an army by himself. Everyone here knows may rarely if ever uses a gun...so she has like what 3 feats? Yet in your mind shes better with a gun than a guy whos used one for 6 season straight in every fight. What do you get out of it?
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@mynameisobel: Mays accuracy with a pistol is somewhere aroind 100 percent. Howa that for a stat. Her only miss was against Bobbi.
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@paytience: lol no it's not. In fact the gif i posted for her shows her missing the first couple of shots it just doesn't look like it because of the frame rate,
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May wrecks. Better at everything except raw strength and possibly durability.
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Diggle is basically a better Ward and Ward already gave May the fight of her life.
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May both rounds. Not sure how easily, but I don't see her necessarily struggling.
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Diggle wins R1, May wins R2.
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@rbt: idk how to quote on mobile but agreed with everything you just said
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
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@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
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May wrecks him
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@rbt: To be fair to May, she has faced Supers more times than Diggle. In fact, one of her best fights was against the Inhuman telekinetic (he was depowered for the record, making it strict hand-to-Hand).
Then we have her vs Akela Amadour where she kicked a gun out of Akelas Hand point-blank and casually dodged a knife thrown at her.
Also, there is her tagging Ben while injured, which is noteworthy considering he is not only skilled, but also a telepath.
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@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
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@stormdriven said:
May wrecks him
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May with moderate difficulty...
@rbt said:
@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
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@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
Mmmm she actually has improved... In season one she seemed pretty rusty, now she is even more fluid, and has the extra 40-ish years of experience from the Framework... besides, Ward vs May had always been tricky... the first time they faced each other (sparring) she was clearly superior, then, the second time May was bitch slapped from Lorelei, yet she kept fighting and had the upperhand with both characters in different context (Ward wanting to kill her)... then their last fight, May had a previous bullet wound in her arm, which makes me believe she wasn't that healthy, and they both used weaponry, while in different context as well (May wasn't really going to kill him, but she/S.H.I.E.L.D needed him captured, while Ward was going 100% for it)... if May hadn't had the nail gun, the fight would have just gone on... it was hinted the whole season (by feats and in Universe) that May was the superior fighter...
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@phoenixdiamond616:
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
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@rbt said:
@phoenixdiamond616:
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
IISC her striking power comes more from momentum, technique and speed more than pure strength... she has really good stats, true, she has been able to react to very fast projectiles and tank heavy hits, but most of her power comes from her skill...
Besides, May seems to be pretty aware of where to hit or dangerous weak points the body has (reference might be the times she has hit people on the chest, in the nuts, larynx and other critical points)...
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
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@pyrofn said:
@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
mmm Ward was nowhere near as agile as May... stronger? yeah, it was his most important factor in his H2H, but May was faster and decisively more agile... and the room they fought... it was context in Ward's favor (since he always seemed to be better improvisor in those kind of areas)... it was not pure H2H since they both used wires, wood planks, tubes and everything they found at that area... it was clearly not H2H, if it was, they wouldn't have used external gear (both of them)...
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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Been done and May is decisively above him
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@angeljax: I don't think it has been done, I tried to type it but got nothing.
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@tonymartial: Well it's been such a debate brought up indirectly in team battles involving the two that it seems like it was.
Honestly I don't think there's any debate to be had. May is superior pretty cut-and-dry. Ward, Bobbi and Daisy too.
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yeah look at how superior may is
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@rogueshadow spamming here.
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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Yeah and everyone knows how you were going to vote in this thread. And everyone can see those images. So why lie to yourself? Im dead serious..,.whats the point in seeing may get dropped by 3 people and claim shes a better fighter than diggle who just literally took down an army by himself. Everyone here knows may rarely if ever uses a gun...so she has like what 3 feats? Yet in your mind shes better with a gun than a guy whos used one for 6 season straight in every fight. What do you get out of it?
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@mynameisobel: Mays accuracy with a pistol is somewhere aroind 100 percent. Howa that for a stat. Her only miss was against Bobbi.
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@paytience: lol no it's not. In fact the gif i posted for her shows her missing the first couple of shots it just doesn't look like it because of the frame rate,
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May wrecks. Better at everything except raw strength and possibly durability.
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Diggle is basically a better Ward and Ward already gave May the fight of her life.
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May both rounds. Not sure how easily, but I don't see her necessarily struggling.
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Diggle wins R1, May wins R2.
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@rbt: idk how to quote on mobile but agreed with everything you just said
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
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@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
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@rbt: To be fair to May, she has faced Supers more times than Diggle. In fact, one of her best fights was against the Inhuman telekinetic (he was depowered for the record, making it strict hand-to-Hand).
Then we have her vs Akela Amadour where she kicked a gun out of Akelas Hand point-blank and casually dodged a knife thrown at her.
Also, there is her tagging Ben while injured, which is noteworthy considering he is not only skilled, but also a telepath.
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Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
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May with moderate difficulty...
@rbt said:
@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
Mmmm she actually has improved... In season one she seemed pretty rusty, now she is even more fluid, and has the extra 40-ish years of experience from the Framework... besides, Ward vs May had always been tricky... the first time they faced each other (sparring) she was clearly superior, then, the second time May was bitch slapped from Lorelei, yet she kept fighting and had the upperhand with both characters in different context (Ward wanting to kill her)... then their last fight, May had a previous bullet wound in her arm, which makes me believe she wasn't that healthy, and they both used weaponry, while in different context as well (May wasn't really going to kill him, but she/S.H.I.E.L.D needed him captured, while Ward was going 100% for it)... if May hadn't had the nail gun, the fight would have just gone on... it was hinted the whole season (by feats and in Universe) that May was the superior fighter...
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well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
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@phoenixdiamond616:
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
IISC her striking power comes more from momentum, technique and speed more than pure strength... she has really good stats, true, she has been able to react to very fast projectiles and tank heavy hits, but most of her power comes from her skill...
Besides, May seems to be pretty aware of where to hit or dangerous weak points the body has (reference might be the times she has hit people on the chest, in the nuts, larynx and other critical points)...
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
mmm Ward was nowhere near as agile as May... stronger? yeah, it was his most important factor in his H2H, but May was faster and decisively more agile... and the room they fought... it was context in Ward's favor (since he always seemed to be better improvisor in those kind of areas)... it was not pure H2H since they both used wires, wood planks, tubes and everything they found at that area... it was clearly not H2H, if it was, they wouldn't have used external gear (both of them)...
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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@tonymartial: Well it's been such a debate brought up indirectly in team battles involving the two that it seems like it was.
Honestly I don't think there's any debate to be had. May is superior pretty cut-and-dry. Ward, Bobbi and Daisy too.
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yeah look at how superior may is
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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Yeah and everyone knows how you were going to vote in this thread. And everyone can see those images. So why lie to yourself? Im dead serious..,.whats the point in seeing may get dropped by 3 people and claim shes a better fighter than diggle who just literally took down an army by himself. Everyone here knows may rarely if ever uses a gun...so she has like what 3 feats? Yet in your mind shes better with a gun than a guy whos used one for 6 season straight in every fight. What do you get out of it?
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@mynameisobel: Mays accuracy with a pistol is somewhere aroind 100 percent. Howa that for a stat. Her only miss was against Bobbi.
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@paytience: lol no it's not. In fact the gif i posted for her shows her missing the first couple of shots it just doesn't look like it because of the frame rate,
Heres another
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May wrecks. Better at everything except raw strength and possibly durability.
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Diggle is basically a better Ward and Ward already gave May the fight of her life.
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May both rounds. Not sure how easily, but I don't see her necessarily struggling.
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@rbt: idk how to quote on mobile but agreed with everything you just said
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
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May wrecks him
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@rbt: To be fair to May, she has faced Supers more times than Diggle. In fact, one of her best fights was against the Inhuman telekinetic (he was depowered for the record, making it strict hand-to-Hand).
Then we have her vs Akela Amadour where she kicked a gun out of Akelas Hand point-blank and casually dodged a knife thrown at her.
Also, there is her tagging Ben while injured, which is noteworthy considering he is not only skilled, but also a telepath.
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@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
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May with moderate difficulty...
@rbt said:
@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
@rbt said:
@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
Mmmm she actually has improved... In season one she seemed pretty rusty, now she is even more fluid, and has the extra 40-ish years of experience from the Framework... besides, Ward vs May had always been tricky... the first time they faced each other (sparring) she was clearly superior, then, the second time May was bitch slapped from Lorelei, yet she kept fighting and had the upperhand with both characters in different context (Ward wanting to kill her)... then their last fight, May had a previous bullet wound in her arm, which makes me believe she wasn't that healthy, and they both used weaponry, while in different context as well (May wasn't really going to kill him, but she/S.H.I.E.L.D needed him captured, while Ward was going 100% for it)... if May hadn't had the nail gun, the fight would have just gone on... it was hinted the whole season (by feats and in Universe) that May was the superior fighter...
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well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
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@rbt said:
@phoenixdiamond616:
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
IISC her striking power comes more from momentum, technique and speed more than pure strength... she has really good stats, true, she has been able to react to very fast projectiles and tank heavy hits, but most of her power comes from her skill...
Besides, May seems to be pretty aware of where to hit or dangerous weak points the body has (reference might be the times she has hit people on the chest, in the nuts, larynx and other critical points)...
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
mmm Ward was nowhere near as agile as May... stronger? yeah, it was his most important factor in his H2H, but May was faster and decisively more agile... and the room they fought... it was context in Ward's favor (since he always seemed to be better improvisor in those kind of areas)... it was not pure H2H since they both used wires, wood planks, tubes and everything they found at that area... it was clearly not H2H, if it was, they wouldn't have used external gear (both of them)...
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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Been done and May is decisively above him
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@angeljax: I don't think it has been done, I tried to type it but got nothing.
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@tonymartial: Well it's been such a debate brought up indirectly in team battles involving the two that it seems like it was.
Honestly I don't think there's any debate to be had. May is superior pretty cut-and-dry. Ward, Bobbi and Daisy too.
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yeah look at how superior may is
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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Yeah and everyone knows how you were going to vote in this thread. And everyone can see those images. So why lie to yourself? Im dead serious..,.whats the point in seeing may get dropped by 3 people and claim shes a better fighter than diggle who just literally took down an army by himself. Everyone here knows may rarely if ever uses a gun...so she has like what 3 feats? Yet in your mind shes better with a gun than a guy whos used one for 6 season straight in every fight. What do you get out of it?
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@mynameisobel: Mays accuracy with a pistol is somewhere aroind 100 percent. Howa that for a stat. Her only miss was against Bobbi.
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May both rounds. Not sure how easily, but I don't see her necessarily struggling.
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
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@rbt: To be fair to May, she has faced Supers more times than Diggle. In fact, one of her best fights was against the Inhuman telekinetic (he was depowered for the record, making it strict hand-to-Hand).
Then we have her vs Akela Amadour where she kicked a gun out of Akelas Hand point-blank and casually dodged a knife thrown at her.
Also, there is her tagging Ben while injured, which is noteworthy considering he is not only skilled, but also a telepath.
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@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
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May with moderate difficulty...
@rbt said:
@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
@rbt said:
@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
Mmmm she actually has improved... In season one she seemed pretty rusty, now she is even more fluid, and has the extra 40-ish years of experience from the Framework... besides, Ward vs May had always been tricky... the first time they faced each other (sparring) she was clearly superior, then, the second time May was bitch slapped from Lorelei, yet she kept fighting and had the upperhand with both characters in different context (Ward wanting to kill her)... then their last fight, May had a previous bullet wound in her arm, which makes me believe she wasn't that healthy, and they both used weaponry, while in different context as well (May wasn't really going to kill him, but she/S.H.I.E.L.D needed him captured, while Ward was going 100% for it)... if May hadn't had the nail gun, the fight would have just gone on... it was hinted the whole season (by feats and in Universe) that May was the superior fighter...
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well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
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well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
IISC her striking power comes more from momentum, technique and speed more than pure strength... she has really good stats, true, she has been able to react to very fast projectiles and tank heavy hits, but most of her power comes from her skill...
Besides, May seems to be pretty aware of where to hit or dangerous weak points the body has (reference might be the times she has hit people on the chest, in the nuts, larynx and other critical points)...
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
mmm Ward was nowhere near as agile as May... stronger? yeah, it was his most important factor in his H2H, but May was faster and decisively more agile... and the room they fought... it was context in Ward's favor (since he always seemed to be better improvisor in those kind of areas)... it was not pure H2H since they both used wires, wood planks, tubes and everything they found at that area... it was clearly not H2H, if it was, they wouldn't have used external gear (both of them)...
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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Been done and May is decisively above him
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@angeljax: I don't think it has been done, I tried to type it but got nothing.
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@tonymartial: Well it's been such a debate brought up indirectly in team battles involving the two that it seems like it was.
Honestly I don't think there's any debate to be had. May is superior pretty cut-and-dry. Ward, Bobbi and Daisy too.
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yeah look at how superior may is
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@rogueshadow spamming here.
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
Everyone knows you're an alt.
Yeah and everyone knows how you were going to vote in this thread. And everyone can see those images. So why lie to yourself? Im dead serious..,.whats the point in seeing may get dropped by 3 people and claim shes a better fighter than diggle who just literally took down an army by himself. Everyone here knows may rarely if ever uses a gun...so she has like what 3 feats? Yet in your mind shes better with a gun than a guy whos used one for 6 season straight in every fight. What do you get out of it?
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@mynameisobel: Mays accuracy with a pistol is somewhere aroind 100 percent. Howa that for a stat. Her only miss was against Bobbi.
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@paytience: lol no it's not. In fact the gif i posted for her shows her missing the first couple of shots it just doesn't look like it because of the frame rate,
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May wrecks. Better at everything except raw strength and possibly durability.
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Diggle is basically a better Ward and Ward already gave May the fight of her life.
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May both rounds. Not sure how easily, but I don't see her necessarily struggling.
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
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@rbt: To be fair to May, she has faced Supers more times than Diggle. In fact, one of her best fights was against the Inhuman telekinetic (he was depowered for the record, making it strict hand-to-Hand).
Then we have her vs Akela Amadour where she kicked a gun out of Akelas Hand point-blank and casually dodged a knife thrown at her.
Also, there is her tagging Ben while injured, which is noteworthy considering he is not only skilled, but also a telepath.
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@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
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May with moderate difficulty...
@rbt said:
@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
@rbt said:
@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
Mmmm she actually has improved... In season one she seemed pretty rusty, now she is even more fluid, and has the extra 40-ish years of experience from the Framework... besides, Ward vs May had always been tricky... the first time they faced each other (sparring) she was clearly superior, then, the second time May was bitch slapped from Lorelei, yet she kept fighting and had the upperhand with both characters in different context (Ward wanting to kill her)... then their last fight, May had a previous bullet wound in her arm, which makes me believe she wasn't that healthy, and they both used weaponry, while in different context as well (May wasn't really going to kill him, but she/S.H.I.E.L.D needed him captured, while Ward was going 100% for it)... if May hadn't had the nail gun, the fight would have just gone on... it was hinted the whole season (by feats and in Universe) that May was the superior fighter...
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well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
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@rbt said:
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well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
IISC her striking power comes more from momentum, technique and speed more than pure strength... she has really good stats, true, she has been able to react to very fast projectiles and tank heavy hits, but most of her power comes from her skill...
Besides, May seems to be pretty aware of where to hit or dangerous weak points the body has (reference might be the times she has hit people on the chest, in the nuts, larynx and other critical points)...
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
mmm Ward was nowhere near as agile as May... stronger? yeah, it was his most important factor in his H2H, but May was faster and decisively more agile... and the room they fought... it was context in Ward's favor (since he always seemed to be better improvisor in those kind of areas)... it was not pure H2H since they both used wires, wood planks, tubes and everything they found at that area... it was clearly not H2H, if it was, they wouldn't have used external gear (both of them)...
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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@tonymartial: Well it's been such a debate brought up indirectly in team battles involving the two that it seems like it was.
Honestly I don't think there's any debate to be had. May is superior pretty cut-and-dry. Ward, Bobbi and Daisy too.
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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Yeah and everyone knows how you were going to vote in this thread. And everyone can see those images. So why lie to yourself? Im dead serious..,.whats the point in seeing may get dropped by 3 people and claim shes a better fighter than diggle who just literally took down an army by himself. Everyone here knows may rarely if ever uses a gun...so she has like what 3 feats? Yet in your mind shes better with a gun than a guy whos used one for 6 season straight in every fight. What do you get out of it?
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@mynameisobel: Mays accuracy with a pistol is somewhere aroind 100 percent. Howa that for a stat. Her only miss was against Bobbi.
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@paytience: lol no it's not. In fact the gif i posted for her shows her missing the first couple of shots it just doesn't look like it because of the frame rate,
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May wrecks. Better at everything except raw strength and possibly durability.
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Diggle is basically a better Ward and Ward already gave May the fight of her life.
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May both rounds. Not sure how easily, but I don't see her necessarily struggling.
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Diggle wins R1, May wins R2.
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
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@rbt: To be fair to May, she has faced Supers more times than Diggle. In fact, one of her best fights was against the Inhuman telekinetic (he was depowered for the record, making it strict hand-to-Hand).
Then we have her vs Akela Amadour where she kicked a gun out of Akelas Hand point-blank and casually dodged a knife thrown at her.
Also, there is her tagging Ben while injured, which is noteworthy considering he is not only skilled, but also a telepath.
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@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
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May with moderate difficulty...
@rbt said:
@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
@rbt said:
@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
Mmmm she actually has improved... In season one she seemed pretty rusty, now she is even more fluid, and has the extra 40-ish years of experience from the Framework... besides, Ward vs May had always been tricky... the first time they faced each other (sparring) she was clearly superior, then, the second time May was bitch slapped from Lorelei, yet she kept fighting and had the upperhand with both characters in different context (Ward wanting to kill her)... then their last fight, May had a previous bullet wound in her arm, which makes me believe she wasn't that healthy, and they both used weaponry, while in different context as well (May wasn't really going to kill him, but she/S.H.I.E.L.D needed him captured, while Ward was going 100% for it)... if May hadn't had the nail gun, the fight would have just gone on... it was hinted the whole season (by feats and in Universe) that May was the superior fighter...
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well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
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well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
IISC her striking power comes more from momentum, technique and speed more than pure strength... she has really good stats, true, she has been able to react to very fast projectiles and tank heavy hits, but most of her power comes from her skill...
Besides, May seems to be pretty aware of where to hit or dangerous weak points the body has (reference might be the times she has hit people on the chest, in the nuts, larynx and other critical points)...
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
mmm Ward was nowhere near as agile as May... stronger? yeah, it was his most important factor in his H2H, but May was faster and decisively more agile... and the room they fought... it was context in Ward's favor (since he always seemed to be better improvisor in those kind of areas)... it was not pure H2H since they both used wires, wood planks, tubes and everything they found at that area... it was clearly not H2H, if it was, they wouldn't have used external gear (both of them)...
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Round 1: Shootout Scenario. Both start in cover.
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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Been done and May is decisively above him
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@angeljax: I don't think it has been done, I tried to type it but got nothing.
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@tonymartial: Well it's been such a debate brought up indirectly in team battles involving the two that it seems like it was.
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yeah look at how superior may is
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@rogueshadow spamming here.
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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Yeah and everyone knows how you were going to vote in this thread. And everyone can see those images. So why lie to yourself? Im dead serious..,.whats the point in seeing may get dropped by 3 people and claim shes a better fighter than diggle who just literally took down an army by himself. Everyone here knows may rarely if ever uses a gun...so she has like what 3 feats? Yet in your mind shes better with a gun than a guy whos used one for 6 season straight in every fight. What do you get out of it?
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@mynameisobel: Mays accuracy with a pistol is somewhere aroind 100 percent. Howa that for a stat. Her only miss was against Bobbi.
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@paytience: lol no it's not. In fact the gif i posted for her shows her missing the first couple of shots it just doesn't look like it because of the frame rate,
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May wrecks. Better at everything except raw strength and possibly durability.
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Diggle is basically a better Ward and Ward already gave May the fight of her life.
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May both rounds. Not sure how easily, but I don't see her necessarily struggling.
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Diggle wins R1, May wins R2.
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@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
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@rbt: To be fair to May, she has faced Supers more times than Diggle. In fact, one of her best fights was against the Inhuman telekinetic (he was depowered for the record, making it strict hand-to-Hand).
Then we have her vs Akela Amadour where she kicked a gun out of Akelas Hand point-blank and casually dodged a knife thrown at her.
Also, there is her tagging Ben while injured, which is noteworthy considering he is not only skilled, but also a telepath.
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@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
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May with moderate difficulty...
@rbt said:
@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
@rbt said:
@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
Mmmm she actually has improved... In season one she seemed pretty rusty, now she is even more fluid, and has the extra 40-ish years of experience from the Framework... besides, Ward vs May had always been tricky... the first time they faced each other (sparring) she was clearly superior, then, the second time May was bitch slapped from Lorelei, yet she kept fighting and had the upperhand with both characters in different context (Ward wanting to kill her)... then their last fight, May had a previous bullet wound in her arm, which makes me believe she wasn't that healthy, and they both used weaponry, while in different context as well (May wasn't really going to kill him, but she/S.H.I.E.L.D needed him captured, while Ward was going 100% for it)... if May hadn't had the nail gun, the fight would have just gone on... it was hinted the whole season (by feats and in Universe) that May was the superior fighter...
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@phoenixdiamond616:
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
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@rbt said:
@phoenixdiamond616:
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
IISC her striking power comes more from momentum, technique and speed more than pure strength... she has really good stats, true, she has been able to react to very fast projectiles and tank heavy hits, but most of her power comes from her skill...
Besides, May seems to be pretty aware of where to hit or dangerous weak points the body has (reference might be the times she has hit people on the chest, in the nuts, larynx and other critical points)...
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
mmm Ward was nowhere near as agile as May... stronger? yeah, it was his most important factor in his H2H, but May was faster and decisively more agile... and the room they fought... it was context in Ward's favor (since he always seemed to be better improvisor in those kind of areas)... it was not pure H2H since they both used wires, wood planks, tubes and everything they found at that area... it was clearly not H2H, if it was, they wouldn't have used external gear (both of them)...
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Round 1: Shootout Scenario. Both start in cover.
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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May wins R1 and stomps R2.
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Been done and May is decisively above him
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Been done and May is decisively above him
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@angeljax: I don't think it has been done, I tried to type it but got nothing.
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@angeljax: I don't think it has been done, I tried to type it but got nothing.
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@angeljax: I don't think it has been done, I tried to type it but got nothing.
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@angeljax: I don't think it has been done, I tried to type it but got nothing.
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@tonymartial: Well it's been such a debate brought up indirectly in team battles involving the two that it seems like it was.
Honestly I don't think there's any debate to be had. May is superior pretty cut-and-dry. Ward, Bobbi and Daisy too.
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@tonymartial: Well it's been such a debate brought up indirectly in team battles involving the two that it seems like it was.
Honestly I don't think there's any debate to be had. May is superior pretty cut-and-dry. Ward, Bobbi and Daisy too.
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@tonymartial: Well it's been such a debate brought up indirectly in team battles involving the two that it seems like it was.
Honestly I don't think there's any debate to be had. May is superior pretty cut-and-dry. Ward, Bobbi and Daisy too.
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@tonymartial: Well it's been such a debate brought up indirectly in team battles involving the two that it seems like it was.
Honestly I don't think there's any debate to be had. May is superior pretty cut-and-dry. Ward, Bobbi and Daisy too.
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yeah look at how superior may is
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yeah look at how superior may is
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yeah look at how superior may is
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yeah look at how superior may is
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@rogueshadow spamming here.
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@rogueshadow spamming here.
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@rogueshadow spamming here.
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@rogueshadow spamming here.
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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Yeah and everyone knows how you were going to vote in this thread. And everyone can see those images. So why lie to yourself? Im dead serious..,.whats the point in seeing may get dropped by 3 people and claim shes a better fighter than diggle who just literally took down an army by himself. Everyone here knows may rarely if ever uses a gun...so she has like what 3 feats? Yet in your mind shes better with a gun than a guy whos used one for 6 season straight in every fight. What do you get out of it?
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
Everyone knows you're an alt.
Yeah and everyone knows how you were going to vote in this thread. And everyone can see those images. So why lie to yourself? Im dead serious..,.whats the point in seeing may get dropped by 3 people and claim shes a better fighter than diggle who just literally took down an army by himself. Everyone here knows may rarely if ever uses a gun...so she has like what 3 feats? Yet in your mind shes better with a gun than a guy whos used one for 6 season straight in every fight. What do you get out of it?
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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Yeah and everyone knows how you were going to vote in this thread. And everyone can see those images. So why lie to yourself? Im dead serious..,.whats the point in seeing may get dropped by 3 people and claim shes a better fighter than diggle who just literally took down an army by himself. Everyone here knows may rarely if ever uses a gun...so she has like what 3 feats? Yet in your mind shes better with a gun than a guy whos used one for 6 season straight in every fight. What do you get out of it?
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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Yeah and everyone knows how you were going to vote in this thread. And everyone can see those images. So why lie to yourself? Im dead serious..,.whats the point in seeing may get dropped by 3 people and claim shes a better fighter than diggle who just literally took down an army by himself. Everyone here knows may rarely if ever uses a gun...so she has like what 3 feats? Yet in your mind shes better with a gun than a guy whos used one for 6 season straight in every fight. What do you get out of it?
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
Everyone knows you're an alt.
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
Everyone knows you're an alt.
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lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
lol spamming where? I deleted a post to add more images. But good to know you have eyes
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@mynameisobel: Mays accuracy with a pistol is somewhere aroind 100 percent. Howa that for a stat. Her only miss was against Bobbi.
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@mynameisobel: Mays accuracy with a pistol is somewhere aroind 100 percent. Howa that for a stat. Her only miss was against Bobbi.
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@mynameisobel: Mays accuracy with a pistol is somewhere aroind 100 percent. Howa that for a stat. Her only miss was against Bobbi.
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@mynameisobel: Mays accuracy with a pistol is somewhere aroind 100 percent. Howa that for a stat. Her only miss was against Bobbi.
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@paytience: lol no it's not. In fact the gif i posted for her shows her missing the first couple of shots it just doesn't look like it because of the frame rate,
Heres another
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@paytience: lol no it's not. In fact the gif i posted for her shows her missing the first couple of shots it just doesn't look like it because of the frame rate,
Heres another
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@paytience: lol no it's not. In fact the gif i posted for her shows her missing the first couple of shots it just doesn't look like it because of the frame rate,
Heres another
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@paytience: lol no it's not. In fact the gif i posted for her shows her missing the first couple of shots it just doesn't look like it because of the frame rate,
Heres another
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May wrecks. Better at everything except raw strength and possibly durability.
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May wrecks. Better at everything except raw strength and possibly durability.
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May wrecks. Better at everything except raw strength and possibly durability.
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May wrecks. Better at everything except raw strength and possibly durability.
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Diggle is basically a better Ward and Ward already gave May the fight of her life.
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Diggle is basically a better Ward and Ward already gave May the fight of her life.
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Diggle is basically a better Ward and Ward already gave May the fight of her life.
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Diggle is basically a better Ward and Ward already gave May the fight of her life.
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May both rounds. Not sure how easily, but I don't see her necessarily struggling.
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May both rounds. Not sure how easily, but I don't see her necessarily struggling.
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May both rounds. Not sure how easily, but I don't see her necessarily struggling.
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May both rounds. Not sure how easily, but I don't see her necessarily struggling.
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Diggle wins R1, May wins R2.
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Diggle wins R1, May wins R2.
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Diggle wins R1, May wins R2.
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Diggle wins R1, May wins R2.
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@rbt: idk how to quote on mobile but agreed with everything you just said
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@rbt: idk how to quote on mobile but agreed with everything you just said
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@rbt: idk how to quote on mobile but agreed with everything you just said
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@rbt: idk how to quote on mobile but agreed with everything you just said
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
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May wrecks him
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@rbt: To be fair to May, she has faced Supers more times than Diggle. In fact, one of her best fights was against the Inhuman telekinetic (he was depowered for the record, making it strict hand-to-Hand).
Then we have her vs Akela Amadour where she kicked a gun out of Akelas Hand point-blank and casually dodged a knife thrown at her.
Also, there is her tagging Ben while injured, which is noteworthy considering he is not only skilled, but also a telepath.
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@rbt: To be fair to May, she has faced Supers more times than Diggle. In fact, one of her best fights was against the Inhuman telekinetic (he was depowered for the record, making it strict hand-to-Hand).
Then we have her vs Akela Amadour where she kicked a gun out of Akelas Hand point-blank and casually dodged a knife thrown at her.
Also, there is her tagging Ben while injured, which is noteworthy considering he is not only skilled, but also a telepath.
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@rbt: To be fair to May, she has faced Supers more times than Diggle. In fact, one of her best fights was against the Inhuman telekinetic (he was depowered for the record, making it strict hand-to-Hand).
Then we have her vs Akela Amadour where she kicked a gun out of Akelas Hand point-blank and casually dodged a knife thrown at her.
Also, there is her tagging Ben while injured, which is noteworthy considering he is not only skilled, but also a telepath.
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@rbt: To be fair to May, she has faced Supers more times than Diggle. In fact, one of her best fights was against the Inhuman telekinetic (he was depowered for the record, making it strict hand-to-Hand).
Then we have her vs Akela Amadour where she kicked a gun out of Akelas Hand point-blank and casually dodged a knife thrown at her.
Also, there is her tagging Ben while injured, which is noteworthy considering he is not only skilled, but also a telepath.
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Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
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@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
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@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
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@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
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May with moderate difficulty...
@rbt said:
@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
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@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
Mmmm she actually has improved... In season one she seemed pretty rusty, now she is even more fluid, and has the extra 40-ish years of experience from the Framework... besides, Ward vs May had always been tricky... the first time they faced each other (sparring) she was clearly superior, then, the second time May was bitch slapped from Lorelei, yet she kept fighting and had the upperhand with both characters in different context (Ward wanting to kill her)... then their last fight, May had a previous bullet wound in her arm, which makes me believe she wasn't that healthy, and they both used weaponry, while in different context as well (May wasn't really going to kill him, but she/S.H.I.E.L.D needed him captured, while Ward was going 100% for it)... if May hadn't had the nail gun, the fight would have just gone on... it was hinted the whole season (by feats and in Universe) that May was the superior fighter...
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May with moderate difficulty...
@rbt said:
@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
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@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
Mmmm she actually has improved... In season one she seemed pretty rusty, now she is even more fluid, and has the extra 40-ish years of experience from the Framework... besides, Ward vs May had always been tricky... the first time they faced each other (sparring) she was clearly superior, then, the second time May was bitch slapped from Lorelei, yet she kept fighting and had the upperhand with both characters in different context (Ward wanting to kill her)... then their last fight, May had a previous bullet wound in her arm, which makes me believe she wasn't that healthy, and they both used weaponry, while in different context as well (May wasn't really going to kill him, but she/S.H.I.E.L.D needed him captured, while Ward was going 100% for it)... if May hadn't had the nail gun, the fight would have just gone on... it was hinted the whole season (by feats and in Universe) that May was the superior fighter...
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May with moderate difficulty...
@rbt said:
@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
@rbt said:
@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
Mmmm she actually has improved... In season one she seemed pretty rusty, now she is even more fluid, and has the extra 40-ish years of experience from the Framework... besides, Ward vs May had always been tricky... the first time they faced each other (sparring) she was clearly superior, then, the second time May was bitch slapped from Lorelei, yet she kept fighting and had the upperhand with both characters in different context (Ward wanting to kill her)... then their last fight, May had a previous bullet wound in her arm, which makes me believe she wasn't that healthy, and they both used weaponry, while in different context as well (May wasn't really going to kill him, but she/S.H.I.E.L.D needed him captured, while Ward was going 100% for it)... if May hadn't had the nail gun, the fight would have just gone on... it was hinted the whole season (by feats and in Universe) that May was the superior fighter...
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May with moderate difficulty...
@rbt said:
@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
@rbt said:
@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
Mmmm she actually has improved... In season one she seemed pretty rusty, now she is even more fluid, and has the extra 40-ish years of experience from the Framework... besides, Ward vs May had always been tricky... the first time they faced each other (sparring) she was clearly superior, then, the second time May was bitch slapped from Lorelei, yet she kept fighting and had the upperhand with both characters in different context (Ward wanting to kill her)... then their last fight, May had a previous bullet wound in her arm, which makes me believe she wasn't that healthy, and they both used weaponry, while in different context as well (May wasn't really going to kill him, but she/S.H.I.E.L.D needed him captured, while Ward was going 100% for it)... if May hadn't had the nail gun, the fight would have just gone on... it was hinted the whole season (by feats and in Universe) that May was the superior fighter...
@rbt said:
@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
@pyrofn:
Facing supers does not necessarily make you more skilled. However, it's hard to debate for Dig's skill either since he does not really fight established characters that much. Though his fodder feats are better than May's at this point. And he has a decent stats advantage on her.
@rbt said:
@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
Mmmm she actually has improved... In season one she seemed pretty rusty, now she is even more fluid, and has the extra 40-ish years of experience from the Framework... besides, Ward vs May had always been tricky... the first time they faced each other (sparring) she was clearly superior, then, the second time May was bitch slapped from Lorelei, yet she kept fighting and had the upperhand with both characters in different context (Ward wanting to kill her)... then their last fight, May had a previous bullet wound in her arm, which makes me believe she wasn't that healthy, and they both used weaponry, while in different context as well (May wasn't really going to kill him, but she/S.H.I.E.L.D needed him captured, while Ward was going 100% for it)... if May hadn't had the nail gun, the fight would have just gone on... it was hinted the whole season (by feats and in Universe) that May was the superior fighter...
@tonymartial said:
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
I don't think May has really improved all that much since the S1 finale. Yes, she has more experience, but it's not like she was lacking in that department before she joined Coulson's team. She already had plenty of experience under her belt.
Ignoring May's current injury, if Ward and May were to fight again, I don't think there will be any significant difference from their fight in the S1 finale.
Mmmm she actually has improved... In season one she seemed pretty rusty, now she is even more fluid, and has the extra 40-ish years of experience from the Framework... besides, Ward vs May had always been tricky... the first time they faced each other (sparring) she was clearly superior, then, the second time May was bitch slapped from Lorelei, yet she kept fighting and had the upperhand with both characters in different context (Ward wanting to kill her)... then their last fight, May had a previous bullet wound in her arm, which makes me believe she wasn't that healthy, and they both used weaponry, while in different context as well (May wasn't really going to kill him, but she/S.H.I.E.L.D needed him captured, while Ward was going 100% for it)... if May hadn't had the nail gun, the fight would have just gone on... it was hinted the whole season (by feats and in Universe) that May was the superior fighter...
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@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
@rbt: to be fair that was season 1
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well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
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well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
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well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
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well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
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well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
IISC her striking power comes more from momentum, technique and speed more than pure strength... she has really good stats, true, she has been able to react to very fast projectiles and tank heavy hits, but most of her power comes from her skill...
Besides, May seems to be pretty aware of where to hit or dangerous weak points the body has (reference might be the times she has hit people on the chest, in the nuts, larynx and other critical points)...
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@phoenixdiamond616:
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
IISC her striking power comes more from momentum, technique and speed more than pure strength... she has really good stats, true, she has been able to react to very fast projectiles and tank heavy hits, but most of her power comes from her skill...
Besides, May seems to be pretty aware of where to hit or dangerous weak points the body has (reference might be the times she has hit people on the chest, in the nuts, larynx and other critical points)...
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@phoenixdiamond616:
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
IISC her striking power comes more from momentum, technique and speed more than pure strength... she has really good stats, true, she has been able to react to very fast projectiles and tank heavy hits, but most of her power comes from her skill...
Besides, May seems to be pretty aware of where to hit or dangerous weak points the body has (reference might be the times she has hit people on the chest, in the nuts, larynx and other critical points)...
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@rbt said:
@phoenixdiamond616:
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
IISC her striking power comes more from momentum, technique and speed more than pure strength... she has really good stats, true, she has been able to react to very fast projectiles and tank heavy hits, but most of her power comes from her skill...
Besides, May seems to be pretty aware of where to hit or dangerous weak points the body has (reference might be the times she has hit people on the chest, in the nuts, larynx and other critical points)...
@rbt said:
@phoenixdiamond616:
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
@phoenixdiamond616:
well, she has faced them with pure skill and speed, which is given by her skill, making it clear her skills are that high she even compensates her lack of physicals...
She obviously has really good stats if she can knock them out eventually. Taking on a superhuman and beating them in h2h means she is more skilled than the superhuman she is taking on has striking power to put them down.
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
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@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
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@pyrofn said:
@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
mmm Ward was nowhere near as agile as May... stronger? yeah, it was his most important factor in his H2H, but May was faster and decisively more agile... and the room they fought... it was context in Ward's favor (since he always seemed to be better improvisor in those kind of areas)... it was not pure H2H since they both used wires, wood planks, tubes and everything they found at that area... it was clearly not H2H, if it was, they wouldn't have used external gear (both of them)...
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@pyrofn said:
@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
mmm Ward was nowhere near as agile as May... stronger? yeah, it was his most important factor in his H2H, but May was faster and decisively more agile... and the room they fought... it was context in Ward's favor (since he always seemed to be better improvisor in those kind of areas)... it was not pure H2H since they both used wires, wood planks, tubes and everything they found at that area... it was clearly not H2H, if it was, they wouldn't have used external gear (both of them)...
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@pyrofn said:
@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
mmm Ward was nowhere near as agile as May... stronger? yeah, it was his most important factor in his H2H, but May was faster and decisively more agile... and the room they fought... it was context in Ward's favor (since he always seemed to be better improvisor in those kind of areas)... it was not pure H2H since they both used wires, wood planks, tubes and everything they found at that area... it was clearly not H2H, if it was, they wouldn't have used external gear (both of them)...
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@pyrofn said:
@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
mmm Ward was nowhere near as agile as May... stronger? yeah, it was his most important factor in his H2H, but May was faster and decisively more agile... and the room they fought... it was context in Ward's favor (since he always seemed to be better improvisor in those kind of areas)... it was not pure H2H since they both used wires, wood planks, tubes and everything they found at that area... it was clearly not H2H, if it was, they wouldn't have used external gear (both of them)...
@pyrofn said:
@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
@rbt: That’s where we consider how May deals with those stronger than her, in which I would refer to the telekinetic who had her in a choke hold. Outside of Grant Ward, he was as agile as May and Stronger than May. And they were in a room where May couldn’t make herself any makeshift weapons, meaning it was pure hand-to-Hand.
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